[Pan-users] Re: Pan-users Digest, Vol 16, Issue 1

[Duncan]

Steve Lombardi posted
<address@hidden>,
excerpted below,  on Mon, 01 Mar 2004 22:43:04 -0500:

> Let's say I subscribe to a lot of "pictures" groups, and I'm trying to
> kill dirty stuff.  So, taken from my old xnews score.ini and "converted"
> (I think) to pan syntax:
> 
> [pictures|photo]
> Score: =-9999
>     Subject: boobs
>     Subject: sex
>     
> However, although Pan says "Scoring Articles", I still see articles that
> should have been killed.  What am I missing here?

I don't know if PAN does multiple same-header sort lines or not.  If not,
given that it's /supposed/ to be xnews compatible, I'd consider it a bug,
if xnews allows that.  I've never tried..

Thus, you may need to combine that into one regex including line like so,
which should work:

[pictures|photo]
Score: =-9999
    Subject: boobs|sex

That may or may not need to be enclosed in parenthesis.. as in
(boobs|sex).. don't know for sure.

Or, split it up into multiple filters, one action per filter, as in:

[pictures|photo]
Score: =-9999
    Subject: boobs

[pictures|photo]
Score: =-9999
    Subject: sex

This is the way PAN constructs its own filters, it seems.

.. Looking at your above example.. I'm guessing that PAN parses it as a
post with a subject line containing BOTH "boobs" AND "sex", which is
probably not what you want.

It's also possible it parses it as expecting to see TWO "Subject lines,
each one containing one of the words.  That DEFINITELY isn't what you
wanted!  <g>

I'm not sure how it works, but would expect that two different lines
containing subject and author would cause the filter to match only if BOTH
the subject and author line matched, not if EITHER one matched, so would
assume the same behavior applies to a duplicated target header, but don't
know which of the above behaviors it'd match.  Are you saying that xnews
would match EITHER author or subject if both were included in the same
filter?  If it would require BOTH to match, not EITHER, then the same
should apply to duplicated lines. 

> Also, if I edit the score file in BBEdit and then switch back to Pan,
> how do I "reload" the modified score file without having to quit Pan?

Well, "reload" could mean one of two things..  PAN applies scores on
demand, so there's really nothing to reload, since it just parses the new
file the next time it is called upon to score something.

OTOH, it MIGHT be desirable to have the current group rescored. That can
be accomplished in two ways.  Either switch away from it and back again,
or view any article's scores, and then select "Close and Rescore".
(Double-clicking the group you are in, in the group pane, may reload it as
well. It seems to do that at least partially, anyway.)  

I do believe that all these methods also cause PAN to reevaluate which
posts to display if hide read posts is on, as well, in which case all the
posts you've read, specifically including any you may have just changed
the score on, will disappear as read and therefore not shown, meaning you
won't see the color change or other indications of a score change, unless
you toggle view read posts, again.

> I'm running OS X Panther, Apple's X11 and Pan via Fink, if you're
> wondering.

Well then, translate any "Linuxisms" accordingly.  <g>

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