Re: [Pan-users] signature when replying to Usenet posts

[mick]

On Sat, 2016-08-27 at 19:17 +0000, Duncan wrote:

> mick posted on Sat, 27 Aug 2016 15:20:25 +0100 as excerpted:
>
> > Signature problem with Pan 0.13.9/Linux Mint KDE 17.3 and Pan 0.14/Linux
> > Mint Cinnamon 18 using a signature saved as a text file.
>
>
> FWIW that's weird version numbering.  Presumably Mint or its upstream 
> distros Ubuntu or Debian change the upstream pan version numbers for some 
> reason, and the given 0.13.9 and 0.14 refer to upstream pan 0.139 and 
> 0.140, with 0.140 being current release, I think.  (I'm running live-git 
> pan and have lost track of the current release, but my live-git, which I 
> last updated on Aug 13, reports 0.141 and the git commit, as shown in my 
> headers since I follow the list as a newsgroup with pan.)

My mistake, 0.139 with KDE and 0.140 with Cinnamon, I manually updated Pan for Cinnamon.

> > When I open follow up to a newsgroup post there is a blank line below
> > the other persons quoted text, then a blinking cursor ready for me to
> > start typing my reply on the second line, then three blank lines below
> > the cursor, then the two dashes and then the signature, that's five
> > lines between the last line of quoted text and the two dashes.  If I use
> > the 'text' signature instead of a 'text file' signature that produces
> > six blank lines between the other persons quoted text and the two dashes
> > before I ever start typing.
> > This does not seem normal.  Posts I see from other Pan users have only
> > one blank line between their last line of text and the two dashes. When
> > making new posts there are four blank lines between the top of the page
> > and the two dashes.
>
>
> At least in my case, that's because I tend to manually add/delete lines 
> as necessary to leave a single blank line above the signature.  (On short 
> posts it'll be manual delete as there's too many blank lines, but on 
> longer posts I guess I often arrow down instead of hitting enter twice to 
> start a new paragraph, so I often end up manually adding lines to keep 
> the signature as, effectively, the last paragraph.)
>
> IOW, that's a long term if minor bug that has been there as long as I can 
> remember.  In fact, I /think/ I remember the old C-based pan, 0.14.x era 
> (upstream 0.14.x), before the C++ rewrite that was introduced with 0.90, 
> behaving similarly.  I suppose most long-term users have gotten as used 
> to it as I have, and simply add/delete lines manually without hardly 
> thinking of it any longer, just as I do.
>
> But if someone wishes to create a patch to fix it, say making it three 
> blank lines with the cursor on the second, ready to type in the reply, I 
> imagine it'd be taken pretty fast, and I imagine that'd be a reasonably 
> easy patch, likely easy enough I could do it myself if it bothered me 
> enough, and I don't make any claims at being a coder, certainly not C++, 
> tho I did have a pascal course in college, 30-some years ago.  But as I 
> said half the time I'd probably end up manually fixing up the sig 
> separation anyway, so it's too minor to bother patching, here.

OK, fair enough, I can delete the surplus lines, If I remember before clicking send 

I was asking the above because another poster uses FreeBSD and does not experience this issue, he has what I would consider the norm, blank line, cursor, signature.

Thanks for your explanation. 

>

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mick