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Re: Warning on unreleased versions.


From: Friedrich Beckmann
Subject: Re: Warning on unreleased versions.
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2016 10:35:21 +0100


Am 02.03.2016 um 22:53 schrieb Harry Thijssen <address@hidden>:

The MSWindows installer displays  a readme file on the screen during installation.

The second line in this readme box states:

This is a new MSWindows build of the PSPP master branch as of the date this binary was built and includes all fixes and updates till today. However these updates are not thorougly tested.

Hi Harry, hi John,

Harry, thanks for the info. So there is already a method for the windows version, 
where this kind of message could be placed. I guess at the moment this message
is displayed identical for all versions, right? 

I think the problem for John is that it is out of control for him what is placed there
for different versions. At the moment there are eight versions offered for windows users at

http://pspp.awardspace.com

2 snapshots labeled 0.8.5 (32 Bit and 64 Bit)
2 snapshots labeled 0.9.0 (32 Bit and 64 Bit)

All versions are based on the nightly builds from Ben 
(here 0.8.5-g2d71ac): http://benpfaff.org/~blp/pspp-master/20150621030502/source/

The 0.8.5-g2d71ac version is two commits after the 0.8.5 release version which is
provided at the „official“ place here: http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/pspp/

So none of the offered versions for windows is the „official“ release version.
The recommendation on awardspace to find out the technical differences
between these versions is to look 
here: http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=pspp.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/master
I think this is not appropiate for non developers.

On MacOS there is „pspp“ and a „pspp-devel“ version.  The 
„pspp-devel“ name indicates that this is an unstable developer version, although
the package info does not say so. „pspp“ is the official 0.8.5 release. 

The debian linux version is based on the „official“ release version. This is then normally the
version that will end up in ubuntu and friends. Arch Linux also uses 0.8.5. Apart from that
you can use Adam Zammits PPA or build from source. I guess you know what you do then.

The basic fundamental idea from John is that there are „stable“ versions and „unstable“ versions
and that it is clear to the user what he or she is currently using. Probably the best way to
decide that is prior to installation. But this is not under Johns control.

@John: Would you consider it sufficient if the „stable“ and „unstable“ versions can be 
identified at the download places maybe for windows also showing a message
during installation as Harry described it?

@Harry: Do you think it is possible to provide a different installer text for „stable“ and „unstable“ versions
on awardspace? Do you think you could make a clearer distinction for download 
for „stable“ and „unstable“ versions?

For example, look at this place to install wine for MacOS from Kronenberger:

http://winebottler.kronenberg.org

Friedrich


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