Re: [Qemu-devel] State of KVM bits in linux-headers

[Gleb Natapov]

On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 08:46:38PM +0100, Alexander Graf wrote:
> 
> On 11.01.2012, at 20:41, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> 
> > On 01/11/2012 01:38 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>> I would like to see us avoiding this in the future. Headers update
> >>>> patches should mention the source and should not be merged until the ABI
> >>>> changes actually made it at least into kvm.git. Same applies, of course,
> >>>> to the functional changes related to that ABI. Otherwise we risk quite
> >>>> some mess on everyone's side.
> >>> 
> >>> I agree.
> >>> 
> >>>> Another thing: KVM_CAP_PPC_HIOR has been removed again from the kernel
> >>>> and also the header. Is there real free space now or will the cap
> >>>> reappear? If there should better be a placeholder, let's add it (to the
> >>>> kernel).
> >>> 
> >>> I will reappear with ONE_REG semantics.
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> OK.
> >> 
> >> Then please clean up now so that update-linux-headers.sh can be used
> >> again by "normal" developers. :)
> > 
> > Before we did submodules and had a responsive BIOS maintainer, we 
> > maintained patches within qemu.git for our external dependencies.  I think 
> > that's a good strategy here too.  It's a little painful, but not entirely 
> > awful.
> > 
> > At least it makes it possible for you to (hopefully) trivial rebase a patch 
> > if something is still in limbo.
> 
> Yeah, that works. I can easily script that part. It doesn't solve the actual 
> underlying problem though that we don't know when the abi is actually stable. 
> I'm slowly starting to understand Pekka ;).
> 
> 
In my recent experience with submitting Joerg's patch series that
touches both kernel and tools/perf I didn't see any advantages in
having them in the same repository. Yes, the repository is the same,
but maintainers are different and have their own timelines and
priorities. Long story short userspace part was applied almost three
month after the kernel part.

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                        Gleb.