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Re: [Qemu-devel] Call for GSoC & Outreachy 2018 mentors & project ideas


From: Stefan Hajnoczi
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Call for GSoC & Outreachy 2018 mentors & project ideas
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2018 09:11:37 +0000
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On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 08:54:11PM -0300, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote:
> On 02/14/2018 04:00 PM, Alistair Francis wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 4:59 AM, Stefan Hajnoczi <address@hidden> wrote:
> >> On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 03:25:56PM -0800, Alistair Francis wrote:
> >>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 4:52 AM, Stefan Hajnoczi <address@hidden> wrote:
> >>>> On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 9:45 PM, Alistair Francis <address@hidden> wrote:
> >>>>> Can anyone who has done this before chime in.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What do you think about getting someone to cleanup and improve the GDB
> >>>>> support in QEMU? Would that be the right difficulty of task for a GSoC
> >>>>> project?
> >>>>
> >>>> There is not enough information to give feedback on whether this
> >>>> project idea is suitable.  What are the specific tasks you'd like the
> >>>> student to work on?
> >>>>
> >>>> In general, I'm sure there are well-defined 12-week project ideas
> >>>> around the GDB stub.  New features are easy to propose and are usually
> >>>> well-defined (e.g. implement these commands that are documented in the
> >>>> GDB protocol documentation).  Cleaning up code is less clear and it
> >>>> would depend on exactly what needs to be done.  Interns will not have
> >>>> a background in the QEMU codebase and may not be able to make
> >>>> judgements about how to structure things, so I would be more careful
> >>>> about refactoring/cleanup projects.
> >>>>
> >>>> Please see my talk about QEMU GSoC for guidelines on project ideas:
> >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNVCX7YMUL8&t=19m11s
> >>>> http://vmsplice.net/~stefan/stefanha-kvm-forum-2016.pdf
> >>>
> >>> That helps a lot, thanks for that.
> >>>
> >>> So for a more concrete solution, how would adding support for multi
> >>> CPU support to the GDB server sound?
> >>>
> >>> This would allow GDB debugging for the A53 and the R5 on the Xilinx
> >>> ZynqMP for example. This is something we have in the Xilinx tree, but
> >>> it is in no state to go upstream and really needs to be re-write to be
> >>> upstreamable and more generic.
> >>
> >> Excellent.  Then they'll already have an idea of "how" it can be
> >> achieved but have the freedom to write code that is most suitable for
> >> upstream.  That is a good starting point for a project.
> >>
> >> Here is the project idea template:
> >>
> >> === TITLE ===
> >>
> >>  '''Summary:''' Short description of the project
> >>
> >>  Detailed description of the project.
> >>
> >>  '''Links:'''
> >>  * Wiki links to relevant material
> >>  * External links to mailing lists or web sites
> >>
> >>  '''Details:'''
> >>  * Skill level: beginner or intermediate or advanced
> >>  * Language: C
> >>  * Mentor: Email address and IRC nick
> >>  * Suggested by: Person who suggested the idea
> >>
> >> Once you have written down the project idea, please post it under
> >> Internships/ProjectIdeas/MultiCPUGDBStub and then add it to the
> >> Google_Summer_of_Code_2018 wiki page using the
> >> "{{:Internships/ProjectIdeas/MultiCPUGDBStub}}" inlining syntax.
> >>
> >> Or if you prefer, just reply with the project idea to this email and
> >> I'll post it on the wiki for you.
> >>
> >> Can you think of a co-mentor who would be willing to participate?  It
> >> makes internships easier when there are multiple mentors - less stress
> >> for mentors, faster communication for students.
> > 
> > Yep, here is my proposal. I don't have wiki access, so I can't add it 
> > myself.
> > 
> > I think Philippe would be a good co-mentor, if he is happy to. I am
> > also welcome to mentor other ideas, it doesn't have to be this one.
> 
> I'm very happy to co-mentor with Alistair, I can manage at least 2h/w on it.

I've added you to the wiki page.

BTW, if you and Alistair don't have wiki accounts yet, let me know and
I'll set it up for you.

Stefan

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