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Re: [Ring] Supporting people setting up Ring servers


From: Adrien Béraud
Subject: Re: [Ring] Supporting people setting up Ring servers
Date: Mon, 15 May 2017 23:39:36 -0400 (EDT)

Hello Zak,

As Bill mentioned, the best current documentation available is
https://tuleap.ring.cx/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/ring/index.php/Ring_distributed_network
We will try to improve this page if you plan to communicate about it.

The best current way to support the Ring distributed network
is to run stable, public (not NATed) OpenDHT nodes.
This helps to maintain good connectivity even during peak node churn
(when many nodes join and leave the network at the same time) or when many
users are NATed.

Even better is if someone or some organization can commit to maintain
one or more OpenDHT nodes on the long run.
In this case, we can add this node in the list of Ring default bootstrap nodes
to make sure users can keep joining the network even if the node
run by Savoir-faire Linux (bootstrap.ring.cx:4222) is down for some reason.
More different people/organizations maintaining DHT nodes means a more
independent, trusted and robust Ring/DHT network.

Currently Savoir-faire Linux runs a small cluster of nodes including the only default bootstrap node,
and a few members of the community also run nodes on their own servers.

https://github.com/savoirfairelinux/opendht/wiki/Running-a-node-with-dhtnode
describes how to use dhtnode.
It's as simple as running
dhtnode -b bootstrap.ring.cx:4222
OpenDHT also includes a Python tool to run and manage clusters of nodes.
A single OpenDHT node is very light in term of memory/CPU/network.

To anyone interested in running an OpenDHT node,
please use the latest release (currently 1.3.3) and not the version packaged
in Debian which is outdated.

Adrien Beraud
Ring developer
Savoir-faire Linux Inc.


From: "Bill Auger" <address@hidden>
To: address@hidden
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 8:28:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Ring] Supporting people setting up Ring servers

Zak -

the documentation is quite thin ATM - but i will try to answer the
question as best as i can

ring is a fully distributed decentralized network based on DHT - the
only aspect that resembles a client-server relationship is the OpenDHT
bootstrap login nodes and Ethereum blockchain identity lookup server
which currently default to the ones that SaviourFaireLinux operates -
currently any peer can change their default bootstrap node to any
other on the network but it is not clear if clients can access a fully
distributed blockchain yet - the docs only say that the eventual goal
is to allow anyone to operate either

other than that - the only significant distinction between running a
"server" and simply running the phone program on a laptop or mobile
device is the uptime of the device and that a dedicated server can be
optionally installed independent of any client for maximum uptime -
such long running instances would be candidates for additional
bootstrap nodes but all connected peers are an integral part of the
infrastructure - ie. so there is a large value in convincing people to
simply run the phone in their systray

a detailed walkthrough would be a great thing but probably a ways off
- the outline of such a tutorial would be not much different than
running any other server - install the server, open the appropriate
router/firewall ports, advertise the node on some side channel, and
keep the program running around the clock - the docs also say that
SaviourFaireLinux would list long-running servers on their site

i would like to add that even if such a tutorial existed, configuring
and maintaining a server is more than the average user is capable of
or willing to do - certainly in the short-term, the best solution IMHO
would be to preconfigure a VM for that purpose - it would be a perfect
fit for something the likes of freedombox (or perhaps even libreCMC)
in order to make installation as simple as possible for non-technical
users and increase the potential of growing the network

as i said the documentation is quite thin but that is my best
understanding of ring currently - perhpas someone else will chime in
to correct any errors in my explanation or to help write a more
detailed walk-through if one is desired

the following page is currently the most detailed resource on this topic:

     https://tuleap.ring.cx/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/ring/index.php/Ring_distributed_network


From: "Zak Rogoff" <address@hidden>
To: address@hidden
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 3:37:26 PM
Subject: [Ring] Supporting people setting up Ring servers

Hello,

I'm Zak, the campaigns manager at the FSF. Thanks so much for your work
on Ring!

RMS asked us to do a post encouraging people to run their own Ring
servers. Could you tell us the best documentation to point them to for this?

Also, is there anything else you'd like us to include in the post? i.e.
tips, explanations for why it is important to run a Ring server, stats
about the number of servers, or anything else you like.

--
Zak Rogoff // Campaigns Manager
Free Software Foundation

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