[Savannah-help-public] Re: Unacceptable behavior of Malayalam coordinator and www-ml administrator

[Anwar Ummer]

Dear Vivek,

It really saddens me to see that you are acting in a monopolistic manner
even when you call yourself a webmaster at gnu.org. Why have you revoked 
my admin status?

It is basic common sense that you have to notify the user that you are revoking
his admin status and moreover provide the explanation. More clearly revoking
it at a time when a discussion is going on to provide Mr. Pravin A. a  membership,
would directly lead us to think that your way of thinking is not at all in conformation
with the ideals that you hold as a gnu.org webmaster or even a free software enthusiast.
We always must allow and motivate those who are genuinely interested to join 
and to contribute to the project, rather than asking them to create another project
when the work to be done is the same. Moreover Mr. Pravin has asked only for 
commit rights to CVS so as to upload the works that he has done, since no commits 
have gone into the CVS for the last three years.

Your claim that Mr. Pravin is trying to dimish the GNU Malayalam Project value that has 
no CVS commit and when you have not even commited the work that you, me, anivar and Vimal
did for the last three years, is baseless. 

Why did you also remove the admin status of Mahesh T. Pai? I presume he also
might not have been notified of the change. Is this a way so that you could be in 
control of who joins the project, by making yourself the only admin at GNU Malayalam Project? 
Why did you remove Anivar A. Aravind from the project even when he was also 
an initial founding member of the project? If you have any personal grudges 
against Anivar and Pravin A., savannah is not the ground for showing it.
 
Please restore the membership of Anivar A. Aravind and also the admin status
of those whom you have revoked.

Regards
Anwar Ummer

On Jan 1, 2008 8:11 AM, Praveen A <address@hidden> wrote:

Hi,

Vivek is Malayalam translator for the last 3 years and he has commit
access to the repository but have not committed a single translations
yet. We have an active team of translators doing GNOME, KDE and Debian
Installer translations and would love to see gnu.org in Malayalam and
is ready to contribute. And now he is blocking other contributors. How
can a person be a language coordinator when he hasn't done any
translations?

 When we have requested Vivek to work together he has removed the
existing members from the savannah project (even another
administrator). This is not an acceptable behavior for a member of the
Free Software community.


I request for a review of Vivek's behavior and take an appropriate
action so that contributors are not blocked for personal gains and
have gnu.org translated into Malayalam. I am sure Savannah has
policies for project administrators and they have to follow certain
rules.

Vivek's behavior could have motivated from the fact that he was a
savannah hacker/admin for some time.

I can provide all the email communications that happened between us
(You could check the savannah logs, gnu.org commits to verify these
yourself).

Vivek was a coordinator for Debian Installer and he has not done a
single line of translations (I was backup coordinator and once he left
I took over it).

Vivek removed Anivar and Anwar for asking Vivek to give an opportunity
for new contributors and suggesting to work with already active
Swathanthra Malayalam Computing. He did not give any reasons for the
removal.

Ani Peter is coordinator of GNOME Malayalam
Maxin is coordinator of KDE Malayalam.

Ramakrishnan is a member of GNU Malayalam project.

You can ask any of these persons about Vivek's contributions and even
you can Vivek itself to show his contributions. He has done a lot of
contributions to organising user group meetings and writing
documentation, campaigning for Free Software in Education (we traveled
together for submitting a petition to head of a university here). He
was also a savannah hacker for sometime. I have nothing personal
against him and I appreciate his contributions but this behavior is
not acceptable. I also thank him for bringing me to localisation.

If you don't intervene here and come up with a solution it is really
going to hut Free Software movement in Kerala as we have worked hard
to spread Free Software and people have shown more interest in Free
Software and there is a requirement for Malayalam content that talks
about Free Software and the obvious answer is translation of gnu.org

You can even verify how each of us contributed with FSF India.

(Well I have been with flame wars with many of in the community as I
don't actually look at who I'm talking to but what I am replying to.
You could even look at the flame wars happened at Digital Freedom
Global activists mailing list. I mention these because I don't want to
give an impression that I'm a good guy here and Vivek is a bad guy)

Hmm great way to start a new year !!

Happy New Year to all.

Regards
Praveen

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