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Re: [Social-discuss] Looking how to help


From: psy
Subject: Re: [Social-discuss] Looking how to help
Date: Mon, 03 May 2010 03:51:39 +0200
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On Sun, 2010-05-02 at 11:26 -0700, Zachary Krebs wrote:
>> A social network should not come in place of real human interaction (in
>>  real life, in the outside world, or however you want to define
>> this). 
>>     

Maybe we have to define it as another important part of our lives. The
virtual part contains many sensations that have a direct bearing on
human social relations. Taking the example of technology as an extension
of our senses (telescope, microscope -> eyes). Social networks are our
environment relationship.

For my social network is more than a tool. It could be a way of my
future life (memory).

>   
>> I don't like the idea of Social Networks being about blogging or
>> tweeting about personal egotistical traits
>>     
>
> I feel like this sort of moralism isn't useful in developing a software
> framework.

Moralism?. Prefer not to talk about ethics?. We need to remember that
the most important part of free software?. That word of the two?.
Software or free?


>  You might feel this way, but others (such as myself) feel
> differently. Software should be a neutral platform that anyone can
> utilize regardless of their moral, political, religious, etc., views.
>   

Neutral?. Ok, so we have to talk definitly about ethics, to understand
the moral of the users. And also represent software.

I think all we are very clear here that the data do not understand these
things. These are just logical objects.

Therefore I feel interesting to hear what each person and what you feel
like using a tool. A tool who manage data, and feels.

Then, if you want to talk about code. We will do.

> With a mature GNU Social, you should be able to do anything you describe
> in your email, and others should be able to do all the things you think
> they shouldn't be doing.
>   

With a mature GNU social, you should be able to be free.

For me, thats all.

> Programmers shouldn't take sides when it comes to things like this.
> That's the point of free software.
>   

I dont know what class of programmers do you known. Some that I know,
know what means to feel frustrated by a project. Despite having the best
technique, but not knowing that is what people really want.
Sugiere una traducción mejor
Gracias por proponer una traducción al Traductor de Google.
Sugiere una traducción mejor:
Some that I know know what it means to feel frustrated by a project.
Despite having the best technique, not knowing that is what people
really want. <br>



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Of course, they also know when someone enjoys their work.

About this, very simple, in GNU Social you have the best coders. ;)

So, maybe we need to have clear this class of thinks;

-Paradigm: New social networking navigations (without comercial/other
interests);
-Objetives:  Long  and medium objetives.  Ways to have a succesfull work
...
-Feels: What the people feel using our tool. Easy.

> Also, if you're interested in applying social networking for activism,
> you might be more interested in Crabgrass[1], which is a great deal more
> mature than GNU Social and explicitly tailored towards that goal.
>
> [1] <http://crabgrass.riseup.net/>
>   

"Its aim is to create a distributed and federated nodal organization of
entities with no geophysical territory, clasped his multiple
relationships through binary codes and languages."

[2] <https://lorea.cc>




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