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Re: More patches for the FAQ


From: Neryel (Frédéric HENRY)
Subject: Re: More patches for the FAQ
Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 19:26:12 +0100
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Alfred M. Szmidt wrote:
Great work!

Thanks :)


   3) Add a link for console with xkb package and for a package
   allowing=20 keymaps on the mach console

I added such a link already.

Yes, i saw it, but the current link points to a .tar.gz, not a .deb ; so i think adding a link to it helps makes the xkb installation easier (especiqlly when using wrong keymqp), even if is not vital.

Could you send the whole thing as one big patch?  Some of the files
are base64 encoded, could you fix that too?

Whoops, don't know what happened (maybe linked to the .doc in extension), it should be ok here.

Frédéric Henry (Neryel)
--
«Give a man a fire and he's warm for the day, but set fire to him and
he's warm for the rest of his life.»
        -- (Terry Pratchett, Jingo)
--- faq.en.in   2005-01-09 00:07:07.000000000 +0100
+++ faq.en.in   2005-01-09 18:57:27.000000000 +0100
@@ -115,13 +115,28 @@ try it and help us get there.
 
 ??     Why is `/usr' a symbolic link to `.'?
 
-{MB} The distinction between `/' and `/usr' has historical reasons.
+{MB,FH} The distinction between `/' and `/usr' has historical reasons.
 Back when Unix systems were booted from two tapes, a small root tape
 and a big user tape.  Today, we like to use different partitions for
 these two spaces.  The Hurd throws this historical garbage away.  We
-think that we have found a more flexible solution called shadow
-filesystems.  Unfortunately, support for shadowed filesystems is not yet
-implemented.
+think that we have found a more flexible solution called union
+filesystems.  Unfortunately, support for union filesystems is still in
+early development and styl needs lots of testing and patches.
+
+?? What are union filesystemens and unionfs ?
+
+{FH} An union filesystem merges two directory trees into a new virtual
+tree.  For example, files appearing  under `/bin' could actually be
+located in different physical locations.  That's why it isn't
+necessary to have a separate  `/usr' directory.  Filesystem unions
+will be done by the `unionfs' translator; however, this translator is
+still in development. 
+
+You are welcome to check it out at:
+
+       http://duesseldorf.ccc.de/~moritz/hurd.html
+
+... and to help its development.
 
 ? Installation
 
@@ -301,14 +316,23 @@ about translators.
 
 ??     Where is the documentation?
 
-{NHW} There are neither man pages nor info nodes for the Hurd translators
-and commands.  Documentation lives inside of the binaries and can be
+{NHW,MM} The most up to date documentation lives inside of the binaries and 
can be
 found by passing the `--help' option to a given command.  For instance:
 
        # /hurd/ext2fs --help
 
 will tell you what types of options the ext2fs translator accepts.
 
+The GNU/Hurd User's Guide and the GNU/Hurd Reference Manual both provide some
+help about the usage of and concepts behind the GNU Hurd.  You can find them,
+among others, at:
+
+       http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/docs.html
+
+You can also find documentation on the Wiki:
+
+       http://hurd.gnufans.org/
+
 ??     What is a translator?
 
 {MB} There is a text about translators available at:
@@ -336,10 +360,18 @@ prompt.
 
 ??     How do I use non-US keyboard bindings?
 
-{NHW} Take a look at:
+{NHW,FH} Take a look at:
 
        http://www.xs4all.nl/~mgerards/xkb8.tar.gz
 
+There is also a debian package of the console including xkb, available at:
+
+       http://debian.duckcorp.org/unstable/binary-hurd-i386/
+
+If you still use the Mach console, you can download the package `clavier' at:
+
+       http://kilobug.free.fr/hurd/debian/
+
 ??     How do I enable color on the console?
 
 {NHW} If you are using the GNU Mach microkernel, you can set your
@@ -378,7 +410,9 @@ filesystem.
 
 ??     Why does `ps aux' give me strange output?
 
-{MB} Try `ps Aux'.
+{MB,MM} Try `ps Aux'.  Indeed, under GNU/Hurd, `ps aux' doesn't list all
+processes: it omits the session and group leaders, and the processes
+without parent.
 
 ??     I have a hung process that I want to kill, however, `ps' is now
        hanging too.
@@ -408,7 +442,14 @@ programs that rely it.  If you are wonde
 directory, this is a relict from a Debian GNU/Linux package
 (specifically, `base-files').
 
-You can probe for existing hardware devices with the devprobe utility.
+{MM} James Morrisson has created a procfs translator which implements
+a /proc file system providing informations about running processes on
+the system, as Linux /proc does (those are the directories with
+numerical names, which are actually PIDs).  It is highly experimental
+and needs testing and improvements.  You can check it out at:
+
+       http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/hurdextras
+
 
 ??     Why does the command `df' not work?
 
@@ -466,6 +507,17 @@ happens.  Thomas explains:
 
 If you can reproduce this error message, please report it.
 
+??  What does ``computer bought the farm'' mean ?
+
+{FH} This message is the text that corresponds to the errno code
+`EIEIO'.  Roland McGrath explains:
+
+       That message is not output by any particular servers at particular
+       times; rather it is the perror text for the errno code EIEIO, which
+       is returned by various RPCs and functions for a variety of "hopeless"
+       error conditions. 
+
+
 ??     What does ``/dev/hd0s1: MOUNTED READ-ONLY; MUST USE `fsysopts
        --writable''' mean?
 
@@ -558,13 +610,20 @@ at:
 
 ??     What is OSKit-Mach?
 
-{NHW} There are two versions of Mach: GNU Mach and OSKit-Mach.  The
-former uses the drivers from Linux 2.0.x while the latter uses the
-University of Utah's OSKit.  If all goes well, OSKit-Mach will be
-stabilized and become the official kernel.  You can find out more about
-the OSKit at:
+{NHW,FH} There are two versions of Mach: GNU Mach 1.x and GNU Mach 2.x,
+formerly known as OSKit-Mach.  The former uses the drivers from Linux 
+2.0.x while the latter uses the University of Utah's OSKit.  If all goes 
+well, OSKit-Mach will be stabilized and become the official kernel.  You 
+can find out more about the OSKit at:
+ 
+       http://www.cs.utah.edu/flux/oskit
+ 
+GNU Mach 2.0 is usable by now, but some things are still missing (or not 
+working). OSKit also lacks some things like serial port 
+support. That's why GNU Mach 2.0 isn't released yet and the two branches 
+coexist. More information is available at:
 
-       http://www.cs.utah.edu/flux/oskit
+       http://hurd.gnufans.org/bin/view/Mach/OskitMachStatusList
 
 ??     Where is the documentation?
 
@@ -651,5 +710,7 @@ Answers were given by:
 * {NHW} Neal H Walfield  <address@hidden>
 * {MB} Marcus Brinkmann  <address@hidden>
 * {AMS} Alfred M. Szmidt <address@hidden>
+* {FH} Frédéric Henry <address@hidden>
+* {MM} Manuel Menal <address@hidden>
 
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