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Re: More patches for the FAQ


From: Neryel (Frédéric HENRY)
Subject: Re: More patches for the FAQ
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 20:18:01 +0100
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Hi,

first, sorry for the high reply delay... /o\

I am globally ok with your comments, here is an updated version which
should be better.

Except for one thing :

ams>     ??  What is OSKit-Mach?
ams>
ams> Could you add the branch names for both trees here?  There was a
ams> user
ams> who couldn't find this information, so it should be listed here I
ams> think

I actually don't understand what you mean by the 'branch names for both
trees', do you mean the numbers in 1.X / 2.x ? Or are there other names
which i am not aware ?


Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
| Hi,
|>
|>styl ==> style, could you rewrite the last sentence to put things into
|>more positive light?
|
|
| Also, it should be something that makes sense.

Actually, it was "styl-> still", but the end of the sentence was quite
repetitive, so i removed it


|Sorry for being so critical, but we should be conservative here.  Only
|reliable, stable information should enter the FAQ.  Pointing to
|experimental stuff that may or may not be in development and may or
|may not work is just not helpful.

Ok, that wasn't my vision at first but you're right, no sense in putting
too much thing in the FAQ.

Thanks for your comments,


Fr?d?ric Henry
- --
?Give a man a fire and he's warm for the day, but set fire to him and
he's warm for the rest of his life.?
        -- (Terry Pratchett, Jingo)
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--- faq.en.in   2005-01-18 19:15:03.000000000 +0100
+++ faq.en.in.new       2005-01-18 19:58:23.000000000 +0100
@@ -115,13 +115,14 @@
 
 ??     Why is `/usr' a symbolic link to `.'?
 
-{MB} The distinction between `/' and `/usr' has historical reasons.
+{MB,FH} The distinction between `/' and `/usr' has historical reasons.
 Back when Unix systems were booted from two tapes, a small root tape
 and a big user tape.  Today, we like to use different partitions for
 these two spaces.  The Hurd throws this historical garbage away.  We
-think that we have found a more flexible solution called shadow
-filesystems.  Unfortunately, support for shadowed filesystems is not yet
-implemented.
+think that we have found a more flexible solution called union
+filesystems,  which allow to create virtual filesystems which are the union 
+of several other filesystems. However, support for union filesystems is 
+still in early development.
 
 ? Installation
 
@@ -301,7 +302,7 @@
 
 ??     Where is the documentation?
 
-{NHW} There are neither man pages nor info nodes for the Hurd translators
+{NHW,MM} There are neither man pages nor info nodes for the Hurd translators 
 and commands.  Documentation lives inside of the binaries and can be
 found by passing the `--help' option to a given command.  For instance:
 
@@ -309,6 +310,12 @@
 
 will tell you what types of options the ext2fs translator accepts.
 
+The GNU/Hurd User's Guide and the GNU/Hurd Reference Manual both provide some
+help about the usage of and concepts behind the GNU Hurd.  You can find them,
+among others, at:
+
+       http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/docs.html
+
 ??     What is a translator?
 
 {MB} There is a text about translators available at:
@@ -336,10 +343,16 @@
 
 ??     How do I use non-US keyboard bindings?
 
-{NHW} Take a look at:
+{NHW,FH} Take a look at:
 
        http://www.xs4all.nl/~mgerards/xkb8.tar.gz
 
+If you want a debian package, you can add to your 'etc/apt/sources.list'
+
+       deb http://debian.duckcorp.org/unstable/binary-hurd-i386/ ./
+
+and then apt-get install console-driver-xkb.
+
 ??     How do I enable color on the console?
 
 {NHW} If you are using the GNU Mach microkernel, you can set your
@@ -378,7 +391,9 @@
 
 ??     Why does `ps aux' give me strange output?
 
-{MB} Try `ps Aux'.
+{MB,MM} Try `ps Aux'.  Indeed, under GNU/Hurd, `ps aux' doesn't list all
+processes: it omits the session and group leaders, and the processes
+without parent.
 
 ??     I have a hung process that I want to kill, however, `ps' is now
        hanging too.
@@ -466,6 +481,17 @@
 
 If you can reproduce this error message, please report it.
 
+??  What does ``computer bought the farm'' mean ?
+
+{FH} This message is the text that corresponds to the errno code
+`EIEIO'.  Roland McGrath explains:
+
+       That message is not output by any particular servers at particular
+       times; rather it is the perror text for the errno code EIEIO, which
+       is returned by various RPCs and functions for a variety of "hopeless"
+       error conditions. 
+
+
 ??     What does ``/dev/hd0s1: MOUNTED READ-ONLY; MUST USE `fsysopts
        --writable''' mean?
 
@@ -558,13 +584,20 @@
 
 ??     What is OSKit-Mach?
 
-{NHW} There are two versions of Mach: GNU Mach and OSKit-Mach.  The
-former uses the drivers from Linux 2.0.x while the latter uses the
-University of Utah's OSKit.  If all goes well, OSKit-Mach will be
-stabilized and become the official kernel.  You can find out more about
-the OSKit at:
+{NHW,FH} There are two versions of Mach: GNU Mach 1.x and GNU Mach 2.x,
+formerly known as OSKit-Mach.  The former uses the drivers from Linux 
+2.0.x while the latter uses the University of Utah's OSKit.  If all goes 
+well, OSKit-Mach will be stabilized and become the official kernel.  You 
+can find out more about the OSKit at:
+ 
+       http://www.cs.utah.edu/flux/oskit
+ 
+GNU Mach 2.0 is usable by now, but some things are still missing (or not 
+working). OSKit also lacks some things like serial port 
+support. That's why GNU Mach 2.0 isn't released yet and the two branches 
+coexist. More information is available at:
 
-       http://www.cs.utah.edu/flux/oskit
+       http://hurd.gnufans.org/bin/view/Mach/OskitMachStatusList
 
 ??     Where is the documentation?
 
@@ -651,5 +684,7 @@
 * {NHW} Neal H Walfield  <address@hidden>
 * {MB} Marcus Brinkmann  <address@hidden>
 * {AMS} Alfred M. Szmidt <address@hidden>
+* {FH} Frédéric Henry <address@hidden>
+* {MM} Manuel Menal <address@hidden>
 
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