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Re: tar does not support partial reads
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Greg Kurz |
Subject: |
Re: tar does not support partial reads |
Date: |
Tue, 20 Jul 2021 16:37:01 +0200 |
On Tue, 20 Jul 2021 13:26:50 +0200
Christian Schoenebeck <qemu_oss@crudebyte.com> wrote:
> On Dienstag, 20. Juli 2021 08:27:45 CEST Petr Pisar wrote:
> > V Mon, Jul 19, 2021 at 03:39:53PM -0500, Paul Eggert napsal(a):
> > > On 7/19/21 7:54 AM, Christian Schoenebeck wrote:
> > > > POSIX compliant applications must always expect that read() /
> > > > write() functions might read/write less bytes than requested
> > >
> > > Although that's true in general, it's not true for regular files. The
> > > POSIX spec for 'read'
> > > <https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/functions/pread.html>
> > > says, "The value returned may be less than /nbyte/ if the number of
> > > bytes left in the file is less than /nbyte/, if the /read/() request was
> > > interrupted by a signal, or if the file is a pipe or FIFO or special
> > > file and has fewer than /nbyte/ bytes immediately available for reading."
> > >
> > > So, regular files shouldn't get short reads unless there's an EOF or a
> > > signal.
> >
> > What does gaurantee there is no signal sent to the process?
> >
> > -- Petr
>
> Well, that's one point, but I cannot deny that Paul has a valid argument
> there
> as well.
>
> However it is common practice to make applications capable to deal with short
> reads independent of any prerequisites like specific file types. And like I
> said in my previous email, as far as the Linux kernel is concerned, it
> clearly
> sais that applications must be capable of short reads at any time and
> independent of a specific file type. BSD is yet a another story though.
>
> And BTW it is actually not QEMU responsible for this particular behaviour,
> but
> rather the stock Linux kernel's 9p client that exposes this behaviour to
> applications: https://github.com/torvalds/linux/tree/master/fs/9p
>
I agree that nothing can be done at the QEMU level to fix that : the virtio-9p
device is simply filling the buffer sized by the client at mount time. It
doesn't
know anything about the count argument passed to read() by the application.
So I had a look at the 9p client code in linux and we have :
static ssize_t
v9fs_file_read_iter(struct kiocb *iocb, struct iov_iter *to)
{
struct p9_fid *fid = iocb->ki_filp->private_data;
int ret, err = 0;
p9_debug(P9_DEBUG_VFS, "count %zu offset %lld\n",
iov_iter_count(to), iocb->ki_pos);
if (iocb->ki_filp->f_flags & O_NONBLOCK)
ret = p9_client_read_once(fid, iocb->ki_pos, to, &err);
else
ret = p9_client_read(fid, iocb->ki_pos, to, &err);
if (!ret)
return err;
iocb->ki_pos += ret;
return ret;
}
p9_client_read_once() sends a single request and propagates
short reads to the caller, while p9_client_read() implements
a full read, i.e. loops on p9_client_read_once() until all the
requested data was read.
strace on tar shows that tar is setting the O_NONBLOCK flag:
openat(AT_FDCWD, "register.h",
O_RDONLY|O_NOCTTY|O_NONBLOCK|O_NOFOLLOW|O_CLOEXEC) = 4
...
read(4, "/*\n * Copyright 2006-2018 Thoma"..., 9728) = 4096
This explains why tag is getting short reads.
Looking more closely at what POSIX says about O_NONBLOCK:
When attempting to read a file (other than a pipe or FIFO) that supports
non-blocking reads and has no data currently available:
- If O_NONBLOCK is set, read() shall return -1 and set errno to [EAGAIN].
- If O_NONBLOCK is clear, read() shall block the calling thread until some
data becomes available.
- The use of the O_NONBLOCK flag has no effect if there is some data
available.
and
[EAGAIN]
The file is neither a pipe, nor a FIFO, nor a socket, the O_NONBLOCK flag
is set for the file descriptor, and the thread would be delayed in the read
operation.
The case of the reported issue is thus "O_NONBLOCK is set and some data
is available", which should lead O_NONBLOCK to be ignored, i.e. switch
to a full read instead of propagating the short read IIUC.
Makes sense ?
Cc'ing Dominique and v9fs-developer for greater audience.
> Independent of 9p, you may encounter short reads with network mounted file
> systems in general as well.
>
> The rationale behind this exposed behaviour is to allow each application to
> decide whether they want to consume the partial data currently available and
> (potentially) reduce the app's overall execution time, or rather to wait for
> the full amount of data to become available by calling read() again.
>
> Was there a specific reason in the past for tar to switch from gnulib's
> (short-read capable) full_read() to safe_read() in 1999?
>
> Best regards,
> Christian Schoenebeck
>
>
- tar does not support partial reads, Christian Schoenebeck, 2021/07/19
- Re: tar does not support partial reads, Paul Eggert, 2021/07/19
- Re: tar does not support partial reads, Petr Pisar, 2021/07/20
- Re: tar does not support partial reads, Christian Schoenebeck, 2021/07/20
- Re: tar does not support partial reads,
Greg Kurz <=
- Re: [V9fs-developer] tar does not support partial reads, Greg Kurz, 2021/07/20
- Re: [V9fs-developer] tar does not support partial reads, Daniel P . Berrangé, 2021/07/20
- Re: [V9fs-developer] tar does not support partial reads, Dominique Martinet, 2021/07/20
- Re: [V9fs-developer] tar does not support partial reads, Christian Schoenebeck, 2021/07/21