Re: creating .ly files

[Richard Shann]

On Sat, 2022-06-18 at 14:43 +0200, Michael Wossog wrote:
> Open custom template is probably not right, course Open custom
> template requires a different file type.
> Import Lilypond could be the right one.
> Could you open the zither-tab-01.ly

You can only use the Open command on Denemo files, to import zither-
tab-01.ly you would have to use

Command: Import Lilypond (Limited)
Try to Import a Lilypond File
Location: Main Menu ▶ File ▶ Import File
Internal Name: Import-Lilypond

this fails on that file because that file includes other files. The
LilyPond import is very limited.

It is possible to insert the LilyPond that you are trying to use as
template code into the head of a Denemo score - doing this with the
files you posted gave an error on trying to typeset, and it seems this
is because the file as it stands does not typeset: putting zither-tab-
01.ly into Frescobaldi and trying to compile with LilyPond 2.22.0 I get
an error:

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Starting lilypond 2.22.0 [zither-tab-01.ly]...
Processing `/home/rshann/Desktop/zither-tab-01.ly'
Parsing...
Interpreting music...
/usr/share/lilypond/2.22.0/ly/init.ly:74:2: error: wrong type for
argument 1.  Expecting duration, found "4"
#
 (let ((book-handler (if (defined? 'default-toplevel-book-handler)
/usr/share/lilypond/2.22.0/scm/parser-ly-from-scheme.scm:24:18: In
procedure reverse! in expression (ly:parse-string-expression clone
lily-string ...):
/usr/share/lilypond/2.22.0/scm/parser-ly-from-scheme.scm:24:18: Wrong
type argument in position 1: (1 "4" . #f)
Exited with return code 1.
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I suspect you could include the relevant LilyPond syntax in a Denemo
score and use it to generate what you want, though if you need
\bookpart stuff which I see in there you would need to create a custom
score layout. All this is quite possible, but not by a simple "Open
LilyPond" mechanism :(

If you are able to get zither-tab-01.ly working with LilyPond 2.22.0
and I can see an example of what you are trying to do, I'm confident a
template can be created for it.

Richard






> 
> 
> Am 18.06.22 um 14:07 schrieb Richard Shann:
> On Thu, 2022-06-16 at 19:50 +0100, Joe wrote:
>  
> > Beware that it also deletes any transposition and other staff
> > properties that appear as Denemo directives in your score.
> I just tried this on a score with a staff that mirrored another
> staff.
> It didn't delete the mirror property on the staff when that template
> was chosen via Open->Custom Template.
> Is it some other command you are thinking of?
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
>  
> >  It is probably safer to delete the notes by hand before saving if
> > you Wang to retain such (useful) features.
> > Command: Save Template
> > Saves the current score as a template, offering to remove the music
> > if
> > desired. When removing the music, all movements except the first
> > movement are deleted and all the contents of the staffs except the
> > first source reference, and any Incipit is deleted too.
> > Location: Main Menu ▶ File ▶ Save
> > Internal Name: SaveAsTemplate
> > 
> > Joe
> > 
> > On 16 Jun 2022 7:03 pm, Richard Shann <richard@rshann.plus.com>
> > wrote:
> >  
> > > On Thu, 2022-06-16 at 18:58 +0200, Michael Wossog wrote:
> > >  
> > > > I am so glad, that the flakpack Denemo 2.22 runs without
> > > > errors.
> > > > But now I've been trying for a while and can't get any further.
> > > > )-:
> > > > I have a .ly file created with LilyPond and I want it (that
> > > > mans
> > > > the
> > > > content) use as the default score in Denemo. 
> > > > So how can I create a .ly file in Denemo or change the default
> > > > score.
> > > > And there are 4 .ly files which have to be included.
> > > Importing LilyPond files into Denemo is limited - it is useful if
> > > you
> > > have a lot of music (notes) that you want to get into Denemo so
> > > that
> > > you can work on the score in Denemo, it is not useful for
> > > importing
> > > the
> > > structure - number of staffs, braces, clefs etc. Ask if you want
> > > help
> > > importing the actual music of a score - notes etc.
> > > 
> > > To create a Default template score start with a blank score (or
> > > one
> > > of
> > > the standard templates) and add any features that will be common
> > > to
> > > all
> > > your scores. The save it via
> > > 
> > > Command: Save Template
> > > Saves the current score as a template, offering to remove the
> > > music
> > > if
> > > desired. When removing the music, all movements except the first
> > > movement are deleted and all the contents of the staffs except
> > > the
> > > first source reference, and any Incipit is deleted too.
> > > Location: Main Menu ▶ File ▶ Save
> > > Internal Name: SaveAsTemplate
> > > 
> > > If you use the name "Default" for this file then the command
> > > 
> > > Command: Open Default Template
> > > Opens the template Default.denemo in the user's custom template
> > > folder.
> > > Location: Main Menu ▶ File ▶ Open
> > > Internal Name: OpenMyDefaultTemplate
> > > 
> > > will create a new score using that score as a template.
> > > 
> > > HTH
> > > 
> > > Richard
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  
> > > > Thank you very much Michael
> > > > 
> > > > I hope, you understand me, I am from Germany and my English is
> > > > learned at shool.
> > > >  
> > > 
> > > 
> 
>