Re: [Dolibarr-dev] Evolution des versions et patch

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 Hi all,

There is a long time that I read this mailing list and this subject retain my attention particularly. So for this time I don't stay dumb. I have an interest in dolibarr because I started a project to synchronise Dolibarr and VirtueMart. After a first version than an evolution I have suspended the project for different reasons but I am still thinking to it and hope to continue in the future.

On an over side, I am an employee of a compagny where I maintain software (fixing bugs). This job takes me aware about versioning problems (keeping old versions up to date for the bugs fixing without including the new features). In the same time I am "autoentrepreneur" (french status) specialized on small Joomla extension developpement. So I think that I can tell that I am familiar whit php, _javascript_ and mysql.
 (And I use Dolibarr to produce my invoices).

Also I am sure that trying to report bug fixing changes from developpement team in a LTS version would allow me to be progressively more familiar with Dolibarr code and so this may help me in my Dolibarr/VirtueMart developpement project. So I am quite interested by supporting a LTS version.

Before taking a decision, I think that I have to know more about what skills are necessary to accomplish this task correctly and how many time it will take to perform it. So in a first step, I would like to know if it is possible to evaluate the number (average) of fixes per month that should be taken in account (to report them in the LTS version). And also if possible the percentage that are just copy of line codes compared to the fixes that needs to be investigated because they are linked to the new features lines of code.
An over important information could be : is it easy today to make the difference between the bug fixing changes and the new features changes ?

So I stop for the moment. I continue to think about that and wait to see if I can get some answers to these first questions.

Best regards,
Jean-Paul

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Problem with LTS is to have a dedicated maintainer for the supported versions.
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I don't think we're speaking about versionS but one LTS at a time.
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simultaneously all versions were more or less corrected over time, for example 3.1 we're at version 3.1.3
> versions are not officially announced but they exist.
> Moreover, the 3.2.1 is already used by some :-)
> when a problem occurs, we try to fix it on all the latest versions (3.1, 3.2) when possible.
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Le 30/07/12 21:05, Laurent Destailleur (eldy) a écrit :
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To answer this question (When), we must first answer another question: Who ?
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> Doing a long time support is still possible. But who will maintain it ? And if we found someone that agree to keep using an old version and maintain it, how to be sure he will still be active during all the long time support period. For the moment, we have not answer for this, so no way to guarantee an long time support version.
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> Le 30/07/2012 17:05, Marcos García a écrit :
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In my opinion, as long as Dolibarr is stable there's no need to make a LTS version, if the Dolibarr team decides to make a modification to the code that brokens backwards compatibility I think that it is because that's the correct way. It is our job as developers, to fix compatibility in third-party modules with newer versions, but it is not our job to care about people not upgrading their modules.

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I know many people won't agree with me and I think my opinion is like "Planned obsolescence" but the web changes every day and I think that we cannot stay in old days...

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Regards,

 

Marcos García

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2012/7/30 Régis Houssin <address@hidden>
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I would be ok for an LTS version with the 3.2
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Le 30/07/12 16:46, i.d & l a écrit :
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+1 on my side for a Long Term Support version that would keep being supported for a while... at least 2 years.
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Le 30/07/2012 16:42, aurelien Imhof a écrit :
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Hello ,    Je suis avec la version 3.1, que j'ai mise a jour il y a quelques mois.   toutefois , le temps de voir apparaître certain module en version 3.2, je ne  souhaite pas upgrader tout de suite.   Resultat , je me retrouve avec certain bug corrigé dans la version 3.2.   Ma question est simple, n'y aurait il pas interet, afin de stabiliser la  version utilisé en production a proposer une version en LTS à l'instar ubuntu.   Vu de ma porte, ce permettrait de limiter les upgrades incessant sur les  instance de mes clients.   Ca vous parle ?       --- en --  I'm using version 3.1, I updated a few months ago. however, the time of seeing  certain module in version 3.2, I do not wish to upgrade immediately.  Result, I end up with some bug fixed in version 3.2.  My question is simple, there would he no interest, to stabilize the version  used in production to propose an LTS version like Ubuntu.  Seen from my door, it would reduce the constant upgrades on instance of my  clients.  It speaks to you?      

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