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Re: [PATCH] (icomplete-vertical-mode): Add support for affixations and,
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João Távora |
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Re: [PATCH] (icomplete-vertical-mode): Add support for affixations and, annotations |
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Tue, 25 May 2021 21:46:43 +0100 |
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Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) |
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
>> I see, broken windows. You keep asking for good API's but when things
>> are proposed in that direction "that's good" but doesn't matter.
>
> [ Remember that the whole design of Emacs and ELisp goes against the
> usual software engineering practice of using encapsulation and
> abstraction to modularize the code so that one part can't mess with
> the other.
No it doesn't :-) At least I don't design Lisp (Elisp or CL) systems
that way (or Ruby or JS, for more examples). Encapsulation or
abstraction aren't property of a specific language. Elisp can't
strictly enforce many things the way a C++ compiler refuses to compile,
but that doesn't mean there aren't a bunch of compile-time and run-time
assertions, much less that they are are useless. Among many examples,
just because Emacs Lisp uses a shared symbol namespace (sigh...) hasn't
stopped us from making the '--' convention or, say, carefully deciding
if a variable name should end in "-functions" or "-function". This is
nor bikeshedding for me, it's a daily part of design.
> Instead, Emacs's idea of empowering users means that for one part to
> be able to mess with another is considered a feature rather than
> a bug, and the "abstraction boundaries" are enforced by conventions
> rather than by technical means.
By both. There's always a way to subvert API intent by the programmer.
That's fine, but it doesn't mean it should be easy to. Pretty sure one
can frobnicate the order of the candidates in a single-arg annotation
function, but it's going to be a lot more code.
João
- Re: Caching where-is-internal, (continued)
- Re: Caching where-is-internal, Stefan Monnier, 2021/05/24
- Re: [PATCH] (icomplete-vertical-mode): Add support for affixations and, annotations, Juri Linkov, 2021/05/24
- Re: [PATCH] (icomplete-vertical-mode): Add support for affixations and, annotations, João Távora, 2021/05/24
- Re: [PATCH] (icomplete-vertical-mode): Add support for affixations and, annotations, Stefan Monnier, 2021/05/24
- Re: [PATCH] (icomplete-vertical-mode): Add support for affixations and, annotations, João Távora, 2021/05/24
- Re: [PATCH] (icomplete-vertical-mode): Add support for affixations and, annotations, Juri Linkov, 2021/05/25
- Re: [PATCH] (icomplete-vertical-mode): Add support for affixations and, annotations, Stefan Monnier, 2021/05/25
- Re: [PATCH] (icomplete-vertical-mode): Add support for affixations and, annotations, João Távora, 2021/05/25
- Re: [PATCH] (icomplete-vertical-mode): Add support for affixations and, annotations, Stefan Monnier, 2021/05/25
- Re: [PATCH] (icomplete-vertical-mode): Add support for affixations and, annotations, Dmitry Gutov, 2021/05/25
- Re: [PATCH] (icomplete-vertical-mode): Add support for affixations and, annotations,
João Távora <=