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Re: UTC or not UTC for timestamps in the past ([FEATURE REQUEST] Timezon
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Jean Louis |
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Re: UTC or not UTC for timestamps in the past ([FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode) |
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Mon, 23 Jan 2023 09:28:37 +0300 |
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* Thomas S. Dye <tsd@tsdye.online> [2023-01-22 20:36]:
> > After all, for a person in Berlin [2023-01-22 Sun 08:29@+1100] may
> > tell more than [2023-01-22 Sun 08:29@Australia/Sydney].
>
> I'm not sure to follow this. IIUC, the timestamp with offset refers to
> absolute time, whereas the timestamp with the Australia/Sydney timezone
> refers to a region of space/time whose relation to absolute time is fixed
> for any moment, but potentially variable over time.
I understand above that it is easier understandable when reading
[2023-01-22 Sun 08:29@+1100] as it is assumed by poster (I guess Max)
that user will understand that there is +11 hours ahead.
That is assumption by poster. I do not find it easier.
As when user sees 08:29 that user will think of time in Berlin, of
time which is not in UTC, and not time in UTC plus 11 hours.
What is easier is what is generally accepted in any type of software
worldwide, just represent it in local time zone.
Difference between offset time and time with time zone is that time
zone includes rules of daylight savings and other anomalies.
--
Jean
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- Re: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda, (continued)
- Re: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda, Tim Cross, 2023/01/20
- Re: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda, Max Nikulin, 2023/01/21
- Re: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda, Tim Cross, 2023/01/21
- Re: UTC or not UTC for timestamps in the past ([FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode), Max Nikulin, 2023/01/22
- Re: UTC or not UTC for timestamps in the past ([FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode), Thomas S. Dye, 2023/01/22
- Re: UTC or not UTC for timestamps in the past ([FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode), Max Nikulin, 2023/01/22
- Re: UTC or not UTC for timestamps in the past ([FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode), Thomas S. Dye, 2023/01/22
- Re: UTC or not UTC for timestamps in the past ([FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode),
Jean Louis <=
- Re: UTC or not UTC for timestamps in the past ([FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode), Thomas S. Dye, 2023/01/23
- Re: UTC or not UTC for timestamps in the past ([FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode), Max Nikulin, 2023/01/23
- Re: UTC or not UTC for timestamps in the past ([FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode), Thomas S. Dye, 2023/01/23
- Re: UTC or not UTC for timestamps in the past ([FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode), Max Nikulin, 2023/01/23
- Re: UTC or not UTC for timestamps in the past ([FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode), Jean Louis, 2023/01/25
- Re: UTC or not UTC for timestamps in the past ([FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode), Ihor Radchenko, 2023/01/24
- Re: UTC or not UTC for timestamps in the past ([FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode), Thomas S. Dye, 2023/01/24
- Re: UTC or not UTC for timestamps in the past ([FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode), Max Nikulin, 2023/01/26
- Re: UTC or not UTC for timestamps in the past ([FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode), Thomas S. Dye, 2023/01/26
- Re: UTC or not UTC for timestamps in the past ([FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode), Tim Cross, 2023/01/27