Re: [GNU-linux-libre] review PureOS ISO

[Ivan Zaigralin]

This makes sense, but If Trisquel can endorse laptops with nonfree BIOS (and 
not only they endorse it, they apparently get a sales cut), then so should be 
able any other FSDG-compliant distribution. Completely in line with previous 
suggestions, the PureOS would probably still need its own net domain, and the 
link(s) to the supported hardware will have to be accompanied with a clear 
explanation of its deficiencies in the freedom department. I have to say, 
until this topic was brought up, I did not think these kinds of endorsements 
were OK at all, but may be I was interpreting FSDG too harshly.

Zlatan, you should probably try to get this sorted out through the official 
channels, and cite the Trisquel's supported laptop list as an example.

On Thursday, November 10, 2016 08:10:19 Jean Louis wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 08:51:14AM +1100, Riley Baird wrote:
> > On Wed, 09 Nov 2016 10:01:51 -0800
> > 
> > Ivan Zaigralin <address@hidden> wrote:
> > > non-free hard/software
> > 
> > What, so now the FSDG don't allow you to recommend non-free hardware?
> > 
> > > The FSDG could not be clearer on this point: it will not approve
> > > any project that advertises and/or delivers non-free software
> > 
> > Should Trisquel be able to create a list of computers with compatible
> > hardware?
> 
> When I land on a web page of free system distribution, I don't expect
> it to recommend me any non-free hardware. With some tags on such
> hardware, like Trisquel has made a list, it gives me a freedom of
> choice.
> 
> If I am however attracted to PureOS, arriving to Puri.sm website,
> these are all "meanings" in the names, and then I come to Notebook
> "Librem", these are all targeted words for certain group of users, I
> feel it is targeted for me. Then again I get Librem notebook with
> non-free blobs, whatever. Hypocrisy. I don't expect that from a free
> system distribution.
> 
> So:
> 
> Any hardware, containing and kind of software inside, and recommended
> by free system distributions shall be compatible with Free System
> Distribution Guidelines. This way, blobs, firmware, non-free software
> in such hardware would not be recommended to users of free
> software. Finally, that type of software often has a potential power
> to take over the full computing control.
> 
> The non-free hardware has been recommended to users over few
> decades. The Free System Distributions and Free Software movement is
> to make a turn and change there, it is not there to promote non-free
> software and non-free BIOS, it is there to eradicate it.
> 
> Wordnet:
> 
> 2. (1) hypocrisy -- (insincerity by virtue of pretending to have
> qualities or beliefs that you do not really have)
> 
> 
> Jean Louis

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