Re: [GNU-linux-libre] review PureOS ISO

[Zlatan Todoric]

On 11/10/2016 12:13 PM, Jaromil wrote:
> dear Ivan,
>
> On Wed, 09 Nov 2016, Ivan Zaigralin wrote:
>
>
> > Zlatan, you should probably try to get this sorted out through the
> > official channels, and cite the Trisquel's supported laptop list as
> > an example.
> it can't get "more official" than this, really. up to now Zlatan has
> been negating most answers coming from the professionals who are
> volunteering to share an analysis here and this strategy definitely
> doesn't helps, nor will help looking for "other more official
> channels".

I am neglecting answers which want to steer company's business decisions 
and water discussion into hardware and not to OS certification. And 
personally, I don't steer your anti-systemd Devuan creation so I don't 
see the point of you trying to deny PureOS from list of endorsed 
distributions because our company chooses to use it as pre-installed 
medium on our hardware - PureOS is certainly not less Free than 
gNewSense for example.

> what we can do is keep the traffic low and wait for official responses
> from GNU members like Hellekin's. I am not sure RMS needs to focus on
> this, but he also chimes in here at times, if that makes everyone feel
> better perhaps it should happen.
>
> Now to respond to a recently raised concern about Trisquel's list of
> supported hardware, I believe this is different from offering a
> *medium of distribution*. While Trisquel uses ISO files and CD/DVD
> supports as mediums of distribution, Puri.sm does offer a
> pre-installed Laptop PC as medium of distribution which contains
> non-free software. Listing supported hardware is different and again
> there is h-node.org for that.

So if we choose to offer Trisquel preinstalled on our hardware, it would 
kick out Trisquel from FSF endorsed distros? Purism is a company, PureOS 
is operating system that made entirely out of Free software and made by 
paid contributors as well as volunteers. Purism is good enough to host 
it on their resources. You're free to volunteer as well and try to make 
it better - but do not expect me to listen to every wish you have about 
Purism.

@all - you can comment on wording about website, and even make us take 
PureOS out of Purism infra (we could simply mirror it to some domain) 
but it will not change a fact - PureOS is Free distro and that is what 
the FSF endorsement is about. Hopefully we apply sooner rather than 
later or never for RYF hardware certificate but that is another story to 
be told (ThinkPenguin has RYF certificate yet on same domain/store it 
sells non-free hardware).
> ciao