Re: [gnuspeech-contact] GNUstep & gnuspeech

[Paul Tyson]

David,

I was looking at TextToSpeech.tar.Z because the bom file pointed to
BigMouth example code in there.  I can't find it anywhere else in the
repository.

I'm just trying to find my way around in the codebase, hoping to get a
toe-hold somewhere.  Appreciate your help and patience.

Regards,
--Paul

On Wed, 2011-03-16 at 21:20 -0700, David Hill wrote:
> Hi Paul,
> 
> You wrote (see below):
> > I found that by resetting the minimum height of the Synthesizer window
> > to 750, I was able to resize it to fit on my 15-inch screen at 1280x800
> > resolution.  Please consider making this change in the gnustep source.
> 
> Good suggestion. Next update we'll do that.
> 
> > When I tried to uncompress and untar
> > nextstep/TextToSpeechKit/Release2.01/Dev/TextToSpeech.pkg/TextToSpeech.tar.Z,
> >  it said "This does not look like a tar archive".  The "file" command 
> > simply says it is "data".  Does anyone else have this problem?
> 
> 
> Now that is interesting. I checked it, and also checked the original source 
> from which the repository was loaded. There's a checksum error on the .tar 
> file, even on the NeXT (yes, I keep a loaded cube for reference). The 
> TextToSpeech.tar.Z file is, of course, part of the install package for the 
> NeXT. I have successfully installed the same package on several NeXT 
> computers over the years with no problem. It is possible that there is a 
> trick programmed into the NeXT Install program. If you want to install on a 
> NeXT computer, you can simply grab the package and "Install" it (there are 
> passwords in the "private" file in the same trunk -- you'd need a developer 
> password which occurs in the second half of the file). If you want the 
> sources for the various Apps, then you don't need to access the 2.01 package 
> at all because the sources are all there in the SVN repository and you can 
> check them all out.
> 
> > Does anyone have some tips & tricks for porting these apps to GNUstep? 
> 
> Because gnuspeech was originally developed on the NeXT (as Trillium's 
> "TextToSpeech" kits -- User, Developer and Experimenter versions) prior to 
> the OpenStep definition, certain things changed by the time we needed to port 
> it (e.g. the use of ps-wraps, archiving, ...) but Greg Casamento went through 
> a lot of the original code and modified it to make it easier to compile on 
> GNUstep. You'd have to check specific code files to see what has been done. 
> When I ported "Synthesizer", I simply started from scratch, consulting the 
> original NeXT code in parallel -- you'll see a lot of the original code is 
> still lying around unused in the current "Synthesizer" source -- and using 
> what I could where I could. But I recreated most of the Interface Builder 
> stuff, including things like the tube slider widgets (I was rather pleased 
> with those). I found Aaron Hillegass's book ("Cocoa Programming for Mac OS 
> X") was a wonderful help in getting started on xcode/Interface Builder. The 
> "Synthesizer" source needs cleaning up and finishing.Needless to say, it is 
> on my "ToDo" list along with a bunch of other things. I don't really want to 
> clean it up too much until I've added the missing graphs and such.
> 
> All good wishes.
> 
> david
> 
> On Mar 16, 2011, at 7:58 PM, Paul Tyson wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, 2011-03-12 at 21:43 -0800, David Hill wrote:
> > 
> >> 
> >> One can resize the Monet "Synthesis Window" with the command buttons
> >> at the top right, or (when not maximized) by grabbing one of the
> >> corners and dragging. If the window is maximised, you can also grab
> >> the title bar and drag and this has much the same effect as hitting
> >> the maximize button to toggle to the non-maximized state.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> However, I can see that on a 15 inch screen none of these options may
> >> be accessible unless the window happens to display at near minimum
> >> size, in which case you can hardly make it much smaller!
> >> 
> >> 
> >> In "Synthesizer" there is no resize possibility. When I designed the
> >> interface, I found it hard to fit everything in and still have things
> >> legible and operational. It just barely fits on a 15 inch screen, I
> >> admit. The other tool windows are smaller in both "Monet" and
> >> "Synthesizer" Apps.
> > 
> > I found that by resetting the minimum height of the Synthesizer window
> > to 750, I was able to resize it to fit on my 15-inch screen at 1280x800
> > resolution.  Please consider making this change in the gnustep source.
> > 
> >> I would be very grateful for any help you can offer, if only
> >> criticism! :-) But one thing you could do is to port the "BigMouth"
> >> App, the code for which you will find in the NeXTStep trunk. Also
> >> there is the code for the pronouncing dictionary App "PrEditor".
> > 
> > When I tried to uncompress and untar
> > nextstep/TextToSpeechKit/Release2.01/Dev/TextToSpeech.pkg/TextToSpeech.tar.Z,
> >  it said "This does not look like a tar archive".  The "file" command 
> > simply says it is "data".  Does anyone else have this problem?
> > 
> >> You could have a shot at that too, though you wouldn't be able to
> >> check either out thoroughly until you could connect to a working
> >> SpeechServer. You can use your system as a sandbox to avoid making
> >> mistakes which might clutter the repository and send me anything you
> >> think I could try. You could also have a shot at the SpeechServer
> >> daemon itself. It would be a great learning experience whatever the
> >> outcome.
> > 
> > Does anyone have some tips & tricks for porting these apps to GNUstep? 
> > 
> > Regards,
> > --Paul
> > 
> > 
>