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Re: [Groff] RE: Small bug in groff 1.19.2 footnote number contro
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Luke Kendall |
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Re: [Groff] RE: Small bug in groff 1.19.2 footnote number contro |
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Tue, 18 Sep 2007 21:53:29 +1000 |
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Larry Jones wrote:
> Werner LEMBERG writes:
>> I assume there wasn't any other, `official' possibility to
>> reset the footnote counter, right?
>
> Well, there's specifying a second argument to the FD macro which causes
> the footnote counter to get reset at each first-level heading, but that
> appears to be just as undocumented.
Oh, so that was what the 2nd argument was for! I saw it mentioned, but
there was no explanation of the 2nd arg, just that it was normally 1.
> Since mm was primarily used inside AT&T where everyone had access to the
> source code (with comments!), that was the primary documentation --
> everything else was just supplemental and not kept up to date. If I get
> an old mm document from someone, I don't want to have to go on a long
> search to figure out what the mysterious number register and string
> references mean and what the groff mm equivalents are before I can
> format the document with groff, I want it to just work! The existing
> macros already have a bunch of backward compatibility aliases for the
> most common internals, but I think it behooves us to add more when
> references to them turn up in existing documents. However, adding new
> aliases is as far as I think we should go -- I wouldn't want to revise
> the groff mm implementation just to support backward compatibility if
> there isn't already an existing equivalent to alias.
>
> -Larry Jones
>
> He's just jealous because I accomplish so much more than he does. -- Calvin
BTW, thanks to Keith Marshall - yes, the ".aln :p ft*nr" works; so
knowing that ft*nr is the new name for the poorly-documented :p register
would allow anyone to easily overcome problems like this.
I don't get a vote on the backward compatibility issue, but I think that
simply documenting what old registers had known meanings, and listing
the new name for them would be perfectly reasonable. They could be
introduced with a comment like Keith proposed:
"The following table describes best guesses at some undocumented
registers, that may not be readily portable to arbitrary troff
implementations.
:p ft*nr Number register storing the current footnote number.
:g ? Number register storing the current list item number.
"
I also think that if the footnote number register had reset to zero at
the start of a new 1st level heading, I wouldn't have even noticed the
small problem. So implementing the .FD semantics (and documenting it,
now that we know what it did), might be a reasonable thing to do anyway?
Regards,
luke
- Re: [Groff] RE: Small bug in groff 1.19.2 footnote number contro, (continued)
- Re: [Groff] RE: Small bug in groff 1.19.2 footnote number contro, Gunnar Ritter, 2007/09/16
- Re: [Groff] RE: Small bug in groff 1.19.2 footnote number contro, M Bianchi, 2007/09/17
- Re: [Groff] RE: Small bug in groff 1.19.2 footnote number contro, Werner LEMBERG, 2007/09/17
- Re: [Groff] RE: Small bug in groff 1.19.2 footnote number contro, Keith Marshall, 2007/09/17
- Re: [Groff] RE: Small bug in groff 1.19.2 footnote number contro, Jon Snader, 2007/09/17
- Re: [Groff] RE: Small bug in groff 1.19.2 footnote number contro, Gunnar Ritter, 2007/09/17
- Re: [Groff] RE: Small bug in groff 1.19.2 footnote number contro, Ralph Corderoy, 2007/09/18
- Re: [Groff] RE: Small bug in groff 1.19.2 footnote number contro, Larry Jones, 2007/09/17
- Re: [Groff] RE: Small bug in groff 1.19.2 footnote number contro,
Luke Kendall <=
- Re: [Groff] RE: Small bug in groff 1.19.2 footnote number contro, Tadziu Hoffmann, 2007/09/19
- Re: [Groff] RE: Small bug in groff 1.19.2 footnote number contro, Bob Diertens, 2007/09/20
- Re: [Groff] RE: Small bug in groff 1.19.2 footnote number contro, Werner LEMBERG, 2007/09/20
- Re: [Groff] RE: Small bug in groff 1.19.2 footnote number contro, M Bianchi, 2007/09/20
- Re: [Groff] RE: Small bug in groff 1.19.2 footnote number contro, Gunnar Ritter, 2007/09/20
- Re: [Groff] RE: Small bug in groff 1.19.2 footnote number contro, M Bianchi, 2007/09/20
- Re: [Groff] RE: Small bug in groff 1.19.2 footnote number contro, Gunnar Ritter, 2007/09/20
- Re: [Groff] RE: Small bug in groff 1.19.2 footnote number contro, Clarke Echols, 2007/09/20
- Re: [Groff] RE: Small bug in groff 1.19.2 footnote number contro, Gunnar Ritter, 2007/09/17
- Re: [Groff] RE: Small bug in groff 1.19.2 footnote number contro, M Bianchi, 2007/09/17