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Re: Meltdown / Spectre
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Katherine Cox-Buday |
Subject: |
Re: Meltdown / Spectre |
Date: |
Thu, 11 Jan 2018 13:45:32 -0600 |
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Leo Famulari <address@hidden> writes:
>> Morally, at least in the short-to-medium term, I'm not convinced.
>> The smell of privilege becomes hard to ignore with the costs and other
>> assumptions involved.
>
> I think I agree with you here, Tobias.
>
> To me, the right choice is not to suggest that people replace almost
> every general-purpose CPU that exists, but rather to help them fix these
> bugs while keeping the CPU they've already paid for, and that the
> Earth's ecology has already paid for. Even though microcode updates are
> not free software.
I really appreciate the viewpoints expressed here, thank you. It's a
great reminder that software freedom doesn't exist in a vacuum, and that
its intent is to do good. It's worth considering what that means in a
more global context.
> This is a situation where some definition of "user safety" beats "user
> control", in my estimation.
I've been reading up on the philosophical differences between BSD and
GNU licenses, and one of the points that's often made is that BSD is the
freer of the two -- allowing users to do as they please -- but GNU
expresses the most freedom globally and is therefore more ethical.
It is a fun thought experiment to extrapolate and apply the same logic
to this situation: what would express the most freedom globally:
faithfully applying the GPL, or assisting users with securing their
computing environments.
Please note that I'm advocating any approach; only having a nice
discussion with like-minded folks.
--
Katherine
- Re: Meltdown / Spectre, (continued)
- Re: Meltdown / Spectre, Chris Marusich, 2018/01/06
- Re: Meltdown / Spectre, Katherine Cox-Buday, 2018/01/08
- Re: Meltdown / Spectre, Marius Bakke, 2018/01/08
- Re: Meltdown / Spectre, Tobias Geerinckx-Rice, 2018/01/08
- Re: Meltdown / Spectre, Tobias Geerinckx-Rice, 2018/01/08
- Re: Meltdown / Spectre, Katherine Cox-Buday, 2018/01/09
- Re: Meltdown / Spectre, Tobias Geerinckx-Rice, 2018/01/09
- Re: Meltdown / Spectre, Leo Famulari, 2018/01/10
- Re: Meltdown / Spectre,
Katherine Cox-Buday <=
- Re: Meltdown / Spectre, Adonay Felipe Nogueira, 2018/01/11
- Re: Meltdown / Spectre, Tobias Platen, 2018/01/10
- Re: Meltdown / Spectre, Leo Famulari, 2018/01/10
- Re: Meltdown / Spectre, Christopher Lemmer Webber, 2018/01/10
- Re: Meltdown / Spectre, Kei Kebreau, 2018/01/10
- Re: Meltdown / Spectre, Chris Marusich, 2018/01/15
- Re: Meltdown / Spectre, Gábor Boskovits, 2018/01/17
- Re: Meltdown / Spectre, Alex Vong, 2018/01/14
- Re: Meltdown / Spectre, Mark H Weaver, 2018/01/09
- Re: Meltdown / Spectre, Leo Famulari, 2018/01/10