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Re: Meltdown / Spectre
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Ludovic Courtès |
Subject: |
Re: Meltdown / Spectre |
Date: |
Tue, 16 Jan 2018 12:10:53 +0100 |
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Leo Famulari <address@hidden> skribis:
> On Tue, Jan 09, 2018 at 06:10:02PM -0500, Mark H Weaver wrote:
>> Marius Bakke <address@hidden> writes:
>> > Katherine Cox-Buday <address@hidden> writes:
>> >> I am also interested -- more from a philisophical perspective -- how
>> >> GuixSD and GNU squares with these kinds of security updates.
>> >
>> > In my opinion, CPU microcode falls under "non-functional data", as
>> > expressly permitted by the GNU FSDG.
>>
>> I strongly disagree. CPU microcode is absolutely functional data.
>> It determines how the CPU functions.
>
> Personally I would really like to have microcode deployment integrated
> into GuixSD. But I agree with Mark here, and I don't see how it can be
> reconciled with the FSDG.
Agreed. Updated microcode can surely be considered software, and per
the FSDG we will not distribute it.
Should GuixSD nevertheless provide a mechanism to support microcode
updates, while not steering users to particular proprietary microcode?
Just like Linux-libre (attempts to) support loading of proprietary
firmware at the user’s choice? Would it make sense at all?
The Intel CPU situation is terrible from a user freedom POV and there
are no signs of it getting better. I think the free software community
must stand strong against it.
Ludo’.
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- Re: Meltdown / Spectre, Alex Vong, 2018/01/14
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