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Re: Meltdown / Spectre
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Ludovic Courtès |
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Re: Meltdown / Spectre |
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Wed, 17 Jan 2018 15:11:10 +0100 |
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Mike Gerwitz <address@hidden> skribis:
> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 12:10:53 +0100, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
>> Should GuixSD nevertheless provide a mechanism to support microcode
>> updates, while not steering users to particular proprietary microcode?
>> Just like Linux-libre (attempts to) support loading of proprietary
>> firmware at the user’s choice? Would it make sense at all?
>
> Does Linux-Libre specifically support loading proprietary firmware, or
> does the project phrase it as _any_ firmware, free or not, that the user
> may provide?
It obviously supports loading free firmware like what we provide in
Guix. However, firmware is searched for under a specific file name, you
can tell that some of these correspond to proprietary firmware only.
Now, I wrote “attempts to” because my understanding is that, even though
the project intends to permit it, the deblobbling code often/always
breaks the non-free firmware loading code.
> My point being: if there only exists proprietary microcode, it's hard to
> make the argument that a freedom-respecting user will use a microcode
> update tool for anything other than proprietary software. In that case,
> does the inclusion of the microcode updater in Guix encourage the use of
> non-free microcode, even if it doesn't state where to get it?
Right, it’s a valid argument.
Thanks,
Ludo’.
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- Re: Meltdown / Spectre, Gábor Boskovits, 2018/01/17
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- Re: Meltdown / Spectre, Mark H Weaver, 2018/01/09
- Re: Meltdown / Spectre, Leo Famulari, 2018/01/10
- Re: Meltdown / Spectre, Ludovic Courtès, 2018/01/16
- Re: Meltdown / Spectre, Mike Gerwitz, 2018/01/16
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