Re: Preparing for the Guix Days

[indieterminacy]

This is ridiculous, whats the point of post Mitterand politics if 
citizens cant even open banking facilities?

On 2024-12-12 16:49, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
> Simon Tournier <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com> skribis:
>
> ...
> Options that come to mind (but you guys probably know that some of 
> these
> don’t make much sense or have already been tried before):
>
>   • Seek advice from similar not-too-big free-software-related
>     non-profits in France and in the EU (Debian France, Aquilenet, FDN,
>     Parinux, ABUL, FSFE, NixOS Foundation, noyb, whatever).

Its worth mentioning Framasoft, a not-for-profit based in France - which 
is classified under law 1901:
https://contact.framasoft.org/fr/
https://www.associations.gouv.fr/liberte-associative.html

>   • Try yet more banks, possibly passing on the burden to other people.

It feels ridiculous drowning talent in paper:
https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=HltbQZmego4

>   • Open an account elsewhere in the EU.

I guess the German option mentioned previously is still a possibility?

>   • Dissolve Guix Foundation in France, recreate it elsewhere in the 
> EU,
>     where presumably another group would shepherd it.

I would suggest Belgium given its good a healthy environment for not for 
profits and Guix has an active presence each February.
However, Im not sure there are enough with broad shoulders to oversee 
the transition and maintain the bureaucracy here.
(Im at a disadvantage regarding third party bureaucracy, let alone 
outside my main language. I would be fine to be a local signature if 
others lead).

Otherwise, Id mention that Estonia has a modern setup regarding 
eGovernment (which ultimately is an inhibitor here) and modern financial 
setups.

I expect the issue then would be whether a local Estonian or a paid 
agent would be the approach.

>   • Find a fiscal sponsor/hosting entity instead of having an
>     independent org.

Id advise against doing this.

>   • …
>
> It sounds pretty much like starting anew, which I find hard to believe,
> but I don’t know what to think.
>
> What do people think?
>
> Anyhow, thanks a lot to you Simon, Tanguy, Andreas, and everyone who
> endured sweat and tears over the past year or so.  It’s easy to feel 
> low
> at this point, but your work makes a real difference.
>
> Ludo’.

Hugs and kisses,


Jonathan