Re: [libreplanet-discuss] support me

[Aurélien DESBRIÈRES]

Something should be possible like
https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/deed.en but for LibreMark
:-)

Plato have explain the importance of the words ... Plato was not a fool.

Regards


Ali Abdul Ghani <blade.vp2020@gmail.com> writes:

> if some people make trademark to this names
>
>  Aaron Wolf
>  Aurélien DESBRIÈRES
>  rms
>  ali
>  rose
> bull
> what should we  do?
> lol
> in fact There is no clear law to  use names in trademark
> English language like Software it must be free
>
> Regards
>
> 2015-04-17 9:52 جرينتش-07:00, Aaron Wolf <wolftune@riseup.net>:
>> That link says it is expired. Anyway, I searched for "god" and
>> "freedom". I see no trademarks on those words. Nor can they be
>> trademarked. They can only be used in specific terms like "Freedom
>> Juice" and "Freedom Studios" and "Freedom Tower".
>>
>> The simple fact that there are 4980 results for "freedom" show that
>> nobody controls the simple word "freedom".
>>
>> Regardless, if you find bad trademark examples, that's no different from
>> other laws being used badly. I'm sure some trademarks get through that
>> should have been rejected and might be judged invalid if taken to  court.
>>
>> On 04/17/2015 09:42 AM, Aurélien DESBRIÈRES wrote:
>>> the official uspto search engine
>>>
>>> http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=searchss&state=4809:eeiwnn.1.1
>>>
>>> have fun and don't cry
>>>
>>> Aaron Wolf <wolftune@riseup.net> writes:
>>>
>>>> Citations? Who has trademarked those words? I don't believe you that
>>>> anyone has gotten legal trademark of those.
>>>>
>>>> On 04/17/2015 09:33 AM, Aurélien DESBRIÈRES wrote:
>>>>> Normal words cannot be trademark you say ... some people have trademark
>>>>> god christ freedom free ...
>>>>>
>>>>> The "normality" is what is not for some others ...
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Aaron Wolf <wolftune@riseup.net> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> One clarification: To say simply: While Trademark is important, Git is
>>>>>> *abusing* their trademark by not simply accept GitBull quickly. The
>>>>>> situation is stupid. Git had *no* reason to stop a Kallithea host from
>>>>>> using a Git name, and trademark law should not give them that level of
>>>>>> power. If a service is fully and completely using Git software and
>>>>>> doing
>>>>>> nothing that misrepresents their relationship to Git, they should be
>>>>>> accepted. However, Git *should* have the ability to complain and stop
>>>>>> the service from using the name if they start doing anything that
>>>>>> could
>>>>>> be confused.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think instead of stopping the use of the name, Git should simply
>>>>>> require a statement like "This service uses Git software but is not
>>>>>> officially connected to the Git project or endorsed by the Git
>>>>>> project."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 04/17/2015 09:13 AM, Aaron Wolf wrote:
>>>>>>> Thanks for the news.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please learn more about trademark though. Trademark is NOT owning any
>>>>>>> word. Normal words cannot be trademarked, and trademark isn't full
>>>>>>> ownership of words. The Git project does not own the word "Git" if it
>>>>>>> were used for something like a brand of ice cream. They do not own
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> word in terms of people talking about the Git project. The do not
>>>>>>> control it completely. They have exclusive control over only a small
>>>>>>> area: the use of the word Git for *products* and *services* that are
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> the area where people could confuse them for being official Git
>>>>>>> products
>>>>>>> or services.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In other words, trademark is a *consumer protection*. It helps make
>>>>>>> sure
>>>>>>> that the public are not tricked into thinking something is an
>>>>>>> official
>>>>>>> version or officially endorsed part of something when it is not. This
>>>>>>> does not make anyone a slave.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> By complaining to you, Git was saying: "We don't know that we fully
>>>>>>> endorse your GitBull service, and we are worried that the public may
>>>>>>> think your service has official connection to the Git project. So, we
>>>>>>> want to restrict the name Git here because we want people to know
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> if they see Git in the name of something similar to or related to the
>>>>>>> Git project that it isn't a fake thing or a trick or something."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now, *I* think it is wrong for Git to do anything other than realize
>>>>>>> that GitBull was fine. But I do *not* think they should have no
>>>>>>> trademark. I do *not* want someone else less responsible than you to
>>>>>>> make Git-something that actually uses Git badly or pretends to be
>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>> Git when it is actually not Git software but something similar but
>>>>>>> different. That might make people have bad experience and think badly
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> Git. Trademark is GOOD for the public, which is not true for patents
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> copyright.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 04/17/2015 02:02 AM, Aurélien DESBRIÈRES wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello Coders!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So ... on start this thread wake up with Alimiracle who request for
>>>>>>>> support for fully free solution for his codes host.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is right that many solution already exist, but they are not all
>>>>>>>> completly free or try to be, but are not.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We try on our side to make this place a reality, which represent
>>>>>>>> many
>>>>>>>> trouble, but, find the way with kallithea.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> At first we have used the name gitbull, git for the tool ... bull
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> the horns of the gnu beast.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But freedom is not the same in the mind of every humans.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Software Freedom Conservancy ping me (very correctly) but ping me
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> the fact we use the term git and the point that git is trademark.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That make me discover that many things are trademark and by the way
>>>>>>>> ping
>>>>>>>> LibrePlanet to act on LibreMark.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We can't own a name, because to make it short if i own the name
>>>>>>>> earth
>>>>>>>> you are all my slave. If I own the name fire, your ass will freeze
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A bit strong form of explanation, but simple enought to say that it
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> not because you own a word that in front the reality of this know
>>>>>>>> part
>>>>>>>> of the bubble universes where we live it is the reality.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You don't own anything, but yes you can use the force to jail me.
>>>>>>>> Very
>>>>>>>> human and in human by the way.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We push all our things to https://bull.codes
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and continue to make the things free as in freedom and price.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I understand that this last point is very difficult for some people
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> understand, but if you think of this planet 7000 years before there
>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>> no money and things were not so bad.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maybe money is the chain of slavery you just don't have ping in your
>>>>>>>> mind.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Welcome to our Free Coding Community, Welcome to Bull Codes
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://bull.codes
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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