Re: [Ag Ibragimov] Re: Collaborative editing.

[Ian Kelling]

Yes. I will look into it. Thanks for reporting.

Ag Ibragimov <agzam.ibragimov@gmail.com> writes:

> For some strange reason, emacs-devel emails are no longer searchable by
> their message-ids in https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/
>
> Interestingly, emacs-org-mode archive works fine. Could someone please
> check why they are no longer searchable. Thanks!
>
> From: Ag Ibragimov <agzam.ibragimov@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Collaborative editing.
> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, "Perry E. Metzger" <perry@piermont.com>
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2021 01:32:40 -0500 (1 week, 5 days, 10 hours ago)
> Flags: seen, list
> Maildir: /INBOX
> List: mailman.gnu.org
>
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>
>>> Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2021 19:43:25 -0400
>>> From: "Perry E. Metzger" <perry@piermont.com>
>>> 
>>> Anyone have thoughts on how one could get Emacs to be a really top 
>>> flight collaborative editing environment, especially for programmers? 
>>
>> I suggest to search the archives of this list for "collaborative",
>> there were a few large discussions last year.  One of the latest
>> attempts to add these capabilities to Emacs is here:
>>
>>   https://code.librehq.com/qhong/crdt.el/
>
> Sorry for so nonchalantly changing the subject, but speaking of
> searching the archives. Since not too long ago I've been having trouble
> searching using "field-specified searching", i.e., using the +subject, or
> +from, and most importantly - using +message-id operator.
>
> I have a function that allows me to find the current email thread in the 
> archives
> using email's message-id; basically, it calls
> (notmuch-show-get-message-id); then launches https://lists.gnu.org
> and tries to search with a search string like this:
>
>   +message-id:<YRiqQ7auhgw8LW0z@protected.localdomain>
>
> And it used to work, but at some point, it stopped working, and that's
> annoying. I've been helplessly shaking my fist whenever I try to find a thread
> in the archives, but other than that, I have no idea how to cope with
> this.
>
> Does anyone know what's changed, why the search doesn't work as before 
> anymore?
>
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>
> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
> Subject: Re: Search for message-id (was: Collaborative editing.)
> To: Ag Ibragimov <agzam.ibragimov@gmail.com>
> Cc: perry@piermont.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2021 14:56:41 +0300
> Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2021 14:56:41 +0300 (1 week, 5 days, 4 hours ago)
> Flags: seen, list
> Maildir: /INBOX
> List: mailman.gnu.org
>
>> From: Ag Ibragimov <agzam.ibragimov@gmail.com>
>> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
>> Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2021 01:32:40 -0500
>> 
>> Sorry for so nonchalantly changing the subject
>
> Please in the future actually change the Subject when you do so.  (I
> did it now.)
>
>> but speaking of
>> searching the archives. Since not too long ago I've been having trouble
>> searching using "field-specified searching", i.e., using the +subject, or
>> +from, and most importantly - using +message-id operator.
>> 
>> I have a function that allows me to find the current email thread in the 
>> archives
>> using email's message-id; basically, it calls
>> (notmuch-show-get-message-id); then launches https://lists.gnu.org
>> and tries to search with a search string like this:
>> 
>>   +message-id:<YRiqQ7auhgw8LW0z@protected.localdomain>
>> 
>> And it used to work, but at some point, it stopped working, and that's
>> annoying. I've been helplessly shaking my fist whenever I try to find a 
>> thread
>> in the archives, but other than that, I have no idea how to cope with
>> this.
>> 
>> Does anyone know what's changed, why the search doesn't work as before 
>> anymore?
>
> My guess is that this has something to do with the changes done in
> configuration of mailman-managed GNU mailing lists to avoid the DKIM
> lunacy, which I think also gave us the "[External]" prefixes and
> mangled From addresses.
>
> But the right place to ask this is not here, it is by sending them to
> these two addresses:
>
>   mailman@gnu.org
>   sysadmin@gnu.org
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