[Ag Ibragimov] Re: Collaborative editing.

[Ag Ibragimov]

For some strange reason, emacs-devel emails are no longer searchable by
their message-ids in https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/

Interestingly, emacs-org-mode archive works fine. Could someone please
check why they are no longer searchable. Thanks!

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From: Ag Ibragimov <agzam.ibragimov@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, "Perry E. Metzger" <perry@piermont.com>
Subject: Re: Collaborative editing.
Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2021 01:32:40 -0500
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2021 19:43:25 -0400
>> From: "Perry E. Metzger" <perry@piermont.com>
>> 
>> Anyone have thoughts on how one could get Emacs to be a really top 
>> flight collaborative editing environment, especially for programmers? 
>
> I suggest to search the archives of this list for "collaborative",
> there were a few large discussions last year.  One of the latest
> attempts to add these capabilities to Emacs is here:
>
>   https://code.librehq.com/qhong/crdt.el/

Sorry for so nonchalantly changing the subject, but speaking of
searching the archives. Since not too long ago I've been having trouble
searching using "field-specified searching", i.e., using the +subject, or
+from, and most importantly - using +message-id operator.

I have a function that allows me to find the current email thread in the 
archives
using email's message-id; basically, it calls
(notmuch-show-get-message-id); then launches https://lists.gnu.org
and tries to search with a search string like this:

  +message-id:<YRiqQ7auhgw8LW0z@protected.localdomain>

And it used to work, but at some point, it stopped working, and that's
annoying. I've been helplessly shaking my fist whenever I try to find a thread
in the archives, but other than that, I have no idea how to cope with
this.

Does anyone know what's changed, why the search doesn't work as before anymore?

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Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2021 14:56:41 +0300
From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Ag Ibragimov <agzam.ibragimov@gmail.com>
Cc: perry@piermont.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Search for message-id (was: Collaborative editing.)

> From: Ag Ibragimov <agzam.ibragimov@gmail.com>
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2021 01:32:40 -0500
> 
> Sorry for so nonchalantly changing the subject

Please in the future actually change the Subject when you do so.  (I
did it now.)

> but speaking of
> searching the archives. Since not too long ago I've been having trouble
> searching using "field-specified searching", i.e., using the +subject, or
> +from, and most importantly - using +message-id operator.
> 
> I have a function that allows me to find the current email thread in the 
> archives
> using email's message-id; basically, it calls
> (notmuch-show-get-message-id); then launches https://lists.gnu.org
> and tries to search with a search string like this:
> 
>   +message-id:<YRiqQ7auhgw8LW0z@protected.localdomain>
> 
> And it used to work, but at some point, it stopped working, and that's
> annoying. I've been helplessly shaking my fist whenever I try to find a thread
> in the archives, but other than that, I have no idea how to cope with
> this.
> 
> Does anyone know what's changed, why the search doesn't work as before 
> anymore?

My guess is that this has something to do with the changes done in
configuration of mailman-managed GNU mailing lists to avoid the DKIM
lunacy, which I think also gave us the "[External]" prefixes and
mangled From addresses.

But the right place to ask this is not here, it is by sending them to
these two addresses:

  mailman@gnu.org
  sysadmin@gnu.org
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