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Re: [Pan-devel] ANN: testing branch @ gnome.org


From: SciFi
Subject: Re: [Pan-devel] ANN: testing branch @ gnome.org
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 10:20:50 +0000 (UTC)
User-agent: Pan/0.135 (Tomorrow I'll Wake Up and Scald Myself with Tea; GIT 72c8148 (github.com/judgefudge/pan2/master); x86_64-apple-darwin10.8.0; gcc-4.2.1 (Apple build 5666 (dot 3)); 32-bit mode)


Hi,

Forewarning:
Wear your Fire-Proof garments for this message.

In _all_ my earlier config.logs:
> configure:6470: checking for GLIB - version >= 2.14.0
> […]
> configure:6598: result: yes (version 2.23.6)

In the brand-new gnome master and testing branches:
> configure:6470: checking for GLIB - version >= 2.28.6
> configure:6602: result: no

I know it was due to
<https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=665289>
by the patch
<http://git.gnome.org/browse/pan2/commit/?id=365e28759852f6b16a384f826c60b9efa93053dd>
(same id also for testing branch).

IMO
This is a badly designed patch.
You should test for GLIB levels _inside_ the affected areas
then adjust the #includes etc _properly_
as in a "before/after" picture.

I have other gnomish tools that should stay at my current level
(namely SiliconDust F/OSS projects for HDHomeRun boxes).
But because of no complaints on their end,
we assume they do have the "before/after" adjustments
within their code.

Also
You must put out a public statement that this "GLIB >= 2.28.6"
is "now a requirement for Pan".
It might even need to solicit agreements of the community.
Else you will likely instantly axe many people like me.
(See the production GTK+/OSK project release status.)

Yes it is that badly designed IMO.

I vaguely remember when the Gnome teams decided to
re-design that whole ball of wax.
It was not pretty.
It continues to shame other projects.

Thus this is the reason for my sheer unhappiness of
this patch in particular.

… :( …

Depending on whether this patch will be re-designed,
I will likely bow-out of further Pan testing.
I cannot see how to rightly spend time
to "upgrade" this g.d. fruity machine.

I saw way too much changes in the patch history of Gnome et al.
For ex. they split-up libraries that were once all-together,
i.e. as it is now in my current system.
Things like that.
Too much down-time is needed to get all caught-up AISI.
My time would be better spent to build an all-new system,
which I've mentioned I intend to do ASAP
in getting off this fruity ship.

I will then presently necessarily keep my Pan frozen
at current level 72c8148
(which also matches the new gnome-git repo levels)
and also continue using the stunnel & openssl-cvs repo.
I hope to glomm-onto some after-xmas sales/specials
to start putting a non-fruit system together.


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