Re: [Pan-devel] ANN: testing branch @ gnome.org

[Heinrich Müller]

SciFi posted on Sun, 04 Dec 2011 10:20:50 +0000:

> Hi,
> 
> Forewarning:
> Wear your Fire-Proof garments for this message.
> 
> In _all_ my earlier config.logs:
>> configure:6470: checking for GLIB - version >= 2.14.0 […]
>> configure:6598: result: yes (version 2.23.6)
> 
> In the brand-new gnome master and testing branches:
>> configure:6470: checking for GLIB - version >= 2.28.6 configure:6602:
>> result: no
> 
> I know it was due to <https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=665289>
> by the patch
> <http://git.gnome.org/browse/pan2/commit/?
id=365e28759852f6b16a384f826c60b9efa93053dd>
> (same id also for testing branch).
> 
> IMO This is a badly designed patch.
> You should test for GLIB levels _inside_ the affected areas then adjust
> the #includes etc _properly_
> as in a "before/after" picture.
> 
> I have other gnomish tools that should stay at my current level (namely
> SiliconDust F/OSS projects for HDHomeRun boxes).
> But because of no complaints on their end,
> we assume they do have the "before/after" adjustments within their code.
> 
> Also You must put out a public statement that this "GLIB >= 2.28.6"
> is "now a requirement for Pan".
> It might even need to solicit agreements of the community.
> Else you will likely instantly axe many people like me.
> (See the production GTK+/OSK project release status.)
> 
> Yes it is that badly designed IMO.
> 
> I vaguely remember when the Gnome teams decided to re-design that whole
> ball of wax.
> It was not pretty.
> It continues to shame other projects.
> 
> Thus this is the reason for my sheer unhappiness of this patch in
> particular.
> 
> … :( …
> 
> Depending on whether this patch will be re-designed,
> I will likely bow-out of further Pan testing.
> I cannot see how to rightly spend time to "upgrade" this g.d. fruity
> machine.
> 
> I saw way too much changes in the patch history of Gnome et al.
> For ex. they split-up libraries that were once all-together,
> i.e. as it is now in my current system.
> Things like that.
> Too much down-time is needed to get all caught-up AISI.
> My time would be better spent to build an all-new system,
> which I've mentioned I intend to do ASAP in getting off this fruity
> ship.
> 
> I will then presently necessarily keep my Pan frozen at current level
> 72c8148 (which also matches the new gnome-git repo levels)
> and also continue using the stunnel & openssl-cvs repo.
> I hope to glomm-onto some after-xmas sales/specials to start putting a
> non-fruit system together.

Can you try my latest update and test if it still gives you connection 
problems?

Cheers.

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