Re: [Pan-users] Feature Request: Ignored threads

[John Aldrich]

On Sunday 08 June 2003 10:16 am, Duncan wrote:

> Well, I certainly don't consider myself a scoring expert, as the
> good-old-filters were good enough for me, and I generally haven't done
> anything with scoring except for adding new folks to the bozo filter which
> must either be done manually now, or accomplished thru scoring.
>
> That said, I think I CAN answer this one, as I had to do essentially that
> when I DID do the bozo thing above, in ordered to get it to work as it used
> to. Only, the bozo filter has the action set to delete rather than mark
> read, but that's a trivial matter.
>
> How it's SUPPOSED to work and how it actually DOES work in this case happen
> to be a bit different, which originally caused me some serious problems,
> but I was able to fix that..
>
> How it SHOULD work (how all the OTHER types work):
>
> In the filter dialog, set the article scored radio button, select AT LEAST
> Low. click add.  It will now display "one of watched, high, medium, zero,
> low".  Select the new line, and click INVERT.  It now says "Article score
> one of: Ignored."  That's what you want. apply.
>
> Unfortunately that does NOT work, with scored articles.  If you close the
> dialog and go back, it will not have applied the invert in the actual
> filter, altho the display did change.  When you go back, it will be back to
> listing watched, high, medium, zero, low, again.  The invert function
> doesn't take, when applied to scores.  Or, at least it doesn't take, here. 
> I didn't realize that, and as I said, added that filter to the bozo rule so
> it would delete new additions to the plonk list,since PAN adds them to the
> score ignored list rather than the bozo delete list now, and I was having
> the problem you just mentioned with messages still showing as unread that I
> couldn't see.  Because of the fail to invert, it deleted EVERYTHING ELSE
> instead.
>
> OK, I was back to square one, PLUS I had a bunch of groups to re-d/l and
> find where I was b4.  Fortunately I caught it fairly quickly, and the
> damage was to only a couple groups.
>
> How I discovered it DOES work:
>
> Once you complete the above steps and verify by reloading the filter dialog
> that it did NOT take as expected, close PAN, and go do what any true Linux
> hacker (by some definitions <g>) would have done the FIRST time. --> go
> load the text based config file in your favorite text editor and hack it
> into compliance!  In this case, all it takes is replacing the list of
> watched..low with the single level, ignored.  Load pan back up and verify
> it interprets the filter correctly (in the display).  Close PAN again and
> verify it didn't change the filter again.  Open PAN again and test it on a
> group you don't care about --> I'd suggest a normally unsubscribed test
> group that you subscribe to for this purpose, then dump when you are done,
> so you don't lose any posts in a group you really value, as I did. 
> However, it worked fine here, once I modified the config file by hand.
>
> The exact line as modified now to work is as follows (note two tabs b4 the
> <): <score mode="ignored"/>
>
> Be sure to put it under the right filter, if you try adding it directly
> rather than simply modifying the one PAN leaves.
>
> The filters file is ~/.pan/data/filters.xml, by default.  At least here, I
> have a *.bak file as well, probably a PAN safety mechanism.
>
Well, I had it working last night or APPEARED to have it working and 
apparently PAN decided that there was something wrong... In any event, that 
rule doesn't appear in the list any more... :-(

Charles: Could you PLEASE try and fix this bug ASAP? I would love to help by 
providing a patch to fix it, but I'm no programmer. :-( The best I can do is 
debug it if there are any bugs... but it's not crashing, there just is no way 
to "flag" all the "ignored" articles... as if for some reason you never 
thought someone would want to get *just* the ignored articles.... In any 
event, I find this highly aggravating... I'd be willing to use a CVS version 
if you want to try and do something...
        Thanks...