Re: [vile] mini-buffer question

[Thomas Dickey]

----- Original Message -----
| From: "Gary Jennejohn" <address@hidden>
| To: "Thomas Dickey" <address@hidden>
| Cc: "j. van den hoff" <address@hidden>, "Vile List" <address@hidden>
| Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 6:54:57 AM
| Subject: Re: [vile] mini-buffer question
| 
| On Fri, 13 Mar 2015 06:16:50 -0400 (EDT)
| Thomas Dickey <address@hidden> wrote:
| 
| > ----- Original Message -----
| > | From: "j. van den hoff" <address@hidden>
| > | To: "Vile List" <address@hidden>, "Paul Fox"
| > | <address@hidden>
| > | Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 5:50:20 AM
| > | Subject: Re: [vile] mini-buffer question
| > | 
| > | On Fri, 13 Mar 2015 01:11:07 +0100, Paul Fox
| > | <address@hidden>
| > | wrote:
| > | 
| > | > wayne wrote:
| > | >  > On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 01:56:44PM -0400, Wayne Cuddy wrote:
| > | >  > > I would certainly prefer having to hit ^V prior to
| > | >  > > inserting
| > | > "special"
| > | >  > > characters, but I'm the only one who uses vile. Not only
| > | >  > > is
| > | >  > > that the
| > | >  > > traditional vi behavior but most shells default to that as
| > | >  > > well. Of
| > | >  > > course it can be worked around but in my old age my muscle
| > | >  > > memory
| > | > takes
| > | >  > > precedence over my mental memory :)
| > | >  >
| > | >  > HA HA that should have read "not the only one who uses
| > | >  > vile".
| > | >  > That one
| > | >  > gave me a laugh.
| > | >
| > | > my thought was, "well, i think there are at least 3 of us..."
| > | >  :-)
| > | 
| > | still a too pessimistic assessment ;-)
| > | 
| > | joerg
| > 
| > I have an impression that actual users are a lot more than those on
| > the
| > mailing list - perhaps several hundred to low thousands worldwide.
| > That's not really a large number, but it's not negligible.
| > 
| 
| Do you have any statistics for the number of Windows downloads?
| How about source?

There are logs, but the site (I use an ISP package...) doesn't do analysis on 
the ftp downloads.
I recall that my website gets ~6000 page hits a day, and xterm+ncurses account 
for 80-90% of that,
with lynx and vile accounting about about 2/3 of the remainder.

| I always install WinVile when I'm forced to use Windows.  And
| I always install at least xvile under FreeBSD.  Unfortunately,
| since I gave up maintaining the vile/xvile ports it's no longer
| possible to have both installed at the same time :(
| 
| Of course, now adays many FreeBSD users install using pkg(7),
| so you wouldn't have any statistics for that.
| 

right.  Debian has popcon (I don't supply figures for that, because
I install lots of packages for no other reason than to research bugs).
It says 193 installs of vile here - http://popcon.debian.org/source/by_inst,
versus (the other programs I work on):

1093292 ncurses,
105126 xterm,
45949 lynx-cur,
26533 diffstat,
23563 dialog,
3464 libcdk5
1756 byacc,
369 bcpp,
105 cproto,
92 vttest,
51 tapecalc (add)

Considering that I work actively on vile (more than lynx),
but not on for several years on bcpp (and not much on cdk),
I would say that vile is under-appreciated.

On the other hand, I wouldn't regard figures from a popularity
contest as usable...

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Thomas E. Dickey <address@hidden>
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