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Re: [Axiom-developer] spam attack


From: Bob McElrath
Subject: Re: [Axiom-developer] spam attack
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 11:42:11 -0700
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Page, Bill address@hidden wrote:
> Hi Bob, 
> 
> On Wednesday, August 02, 2006 2:00 PM you wrote:
> > ... 
> > Since wiki spam must occur over a HTTP connection, it is 
> > 2-way.  So, you have the verified IP's of the attackers.
> > Someone is clearly using a zombie net.  Consider spawning:
> >      iptables -A INPUT -s "$IP" -j DROP
> > when someone posts something in the banned_links.
> 
> Are you suggesting that I drop all connections from the
> complete list of ip addresses that are being used by the
> spammers? 

Yes.

> So far there are about 200 of these addresses
> scattered over several different subnets so I am not sure
> that this is practical. And as far as I can tell the number
> of ip addresses they are using is growing. I could also
> do something similar using our Apache hosts.deny file but
> I am quite concerned that these are spoofed ip addresses
> and do not really uniquely identify the spammers. Blocking
> all of these addresses might well affect ligitimit users.

Only legitimate users that are using a hacked windows box.  And, good
riddance, they should fix their computers.

> > Then, one would want to remove the ban on reguar links
> > or you would hit legitimate users. I'm assuming banned_links
> > would contain only the bad URL's/domain names. So in each
> > case you would get at least one spam.  
> 
> No, this does seem practical either because there are
> literally hundreds of these domain names. 

Yep.  Why is that a problem?

> > That's an interesting idea...can the post be held for moderation
> > too, in case someone makes an interesting edit but doesn't have
> > a zope userid?
> 
> Hmmm, you mean maybe write it to a non-web accessible or otherwise
> protected log file somewhere? Maybe even to a set of "shadow" pages
> that are only readable by registered Zope users? Moderation is a
> neat idea but it would take some programming work to implement.

Well, ideally something like a mailing list moderation where some
administrator can look at it and just hit a button to allow the edit.

--
Cheers,
Bob McElrath [Univ. of California at Davis, Department of Physics]

    Only after you've tried to figure something out for yourself and
    failed are you ready to absorb "the answer."

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