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Re: [Axiom-developer] Axiom meeting at ISSAC


From: Gabriel Dos Reis
Subject: Re: [Axiom-developer] Axiom meeting at ISSAC
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 15:05:11 -0500 (CDT)

On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, C Y wrote:

| --- Gabriel Dos Reis <address@hidden> wrote:
| 
| > On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, C Y wrote:
| > 
| > | Whatever the intent may be, the legal text of the license itself is
| > | what will ultimately govern what can and cannot be done, within the
| > | limits of the law.  That is why I focus on the text of the license
| > | itself - intent lasts only as long as the individuals doing the
| > | intending.
| > 
| > I would encourage anyone to whom this issue really matters to attend
| > the Aldor workshop and voice their concerns in face-to-face meetings.
| 
| Gaby, as you pointed out with some force earlier we have seen posted to
| the list already not just speculation but very clear and explicit
| information that Aldor.org wants to have a hand in any commercial
| development of the Aldor code.  It has already been noted that this
| makes it GPL incompatible, and anything GPL compatible is not going to
| be able to serve the goals as stated.  Modified BSD is even less
| compatible with that goal.

All I'm saying is: if this license issue really matters to you AND you think
you can change people's mind or you have persuasive arguments to influence
the decisions, then you should consider attending the Aldor workshop where
you can meet for real people directly involved in the event.  

No amount of emails or speculations to this list will have any impact.

| > I know some people already booked; I would encourage others to
| > consider attending.
| 
| Based on what you heard at the Axiom meeting, do you think there is a
| realistic chance they would consider a change that is at least GPL
| compatible?

I believe this is an example of question best answered by people
involved in getting Aldor source code to the public; and a question,
I believe, best dealt with in face to face meeting.

| It sounds as if they have already considered that course
| of action decided specifically to be GPL incompatible.  Modified BSD
| will not serve their goal of non-commercial only, and is also GPL
| compatible.

I'm under the impression that APL2 is a modified BSD license with
non-commercial use clause added.  At least three people on different sides on
the issue concurred on that view.

-- Gaby




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