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Re: [Denemo-devel] Cadenza/hide time signature questions


From: Donald J. Stewart
Subject: Re: [Denemo-devel] Cadenza/hide time signature questions
Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2016 10:17:32 -0700
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this could be true...I don't recall if I tried putting the cursor on the first 
note or the first rest of the bar. I do know that having the cursor near the 
time signature did not work.

On Sunday, October 2, 2016 6:00:00 PM PDT Richard Shann wrote:
> On Sun, 2016-10-02 at 09:53 -0700, Donald J. Stewart wrote:
> > I did try that a number of different ways. I tried moving my cursor
> > around the staff in different ways,
> 
> I just tested this. I created a passage with a couple of (Denemo) bars
> with cadenza time put the cursor on one of the notes, then executed 
the
> hide timesignature command and it operated on the initial 
timesignature.
> 
> My guess is that perhaps you are being deceived by the circular blue
> pointer mark which appears on the object at the mouse position. You 
have
> to click so that the rectangular Denemo cursor is on a note - check by
> looking at the status bar at the bottom, it should say Note not Time
> Signature Change.
> 
> Richard
> 
> >  but the 'U' symbol (hide) would only
> > 
> > appear underneath the 'T' symbol (Cadenza). No matter what I did, I
> > couldn't get it under the 4/4 time signature until I first deleted the
> > Cadenza time.
> > 
> > On Sunday, October 2, 2016 5:41:04 PM PDT Richard Shann wrote:
> > > On Sun, 2016-10-02 at 09:42 -0700, Donald J. Stewart wrote:
> > > > oops, it should read:
> > > > 
> > > > I deleted every staff's Cadenza time in Notes/Rests->Delete 
Object,
> > > 
> > > there was no need for this step (I believe), as the command to hide 
the
> > > time signature will operate on the initial time signature provided 
that
> > > the cursor is not on a time signature change object. So just move 
the
> > > cursor onto a note and then invoke the Hide time signature 
command.
> > > 
> > > Richard
> > > 
> > > > then used Time Signatures->Print (Hide) for every staff's Time
> > 
> > Signature,
> > 
> > > > then started Time Signatures->Start Cadenza Time
> > > > 
> > > > On Sunday, October 2, 2016 9:38:15 AM PDT Donald J. Stewart 
wrote:
> > > > > Thanks Richard, it did work, although I had to first delete the
> > 
> > Cadenza
> > 
> > > > > time next to the time signature, otherwise Print (Hide) would try 
to
> > > > > hide
> > > > > the cadenza and not the original time signature.
> > > > > 
> > > > > In other words,
> > > > > 
> > > > > I deleted every staff's Cadenza time in Notes/Rests->Delete 
Object,
> > > > > then used Time Signatures->Print (Hide) for every staff's 
Cadenza,
> > > > > then started Time Signatures->Start Cadenza Time
> > > > > 
> > > > >  On Sunday, October 2, 2016 9:02:15 AM PDT Richard Shann 
wrote:
> > > > > > On Sat, 2016-10-01 at 18:14 -0700, Donald J. Stewart wrote:
> > > > > > > I'm using Cadenza time to create an untimed chant at the
> > 
> > opening
> > 
> > > > of
> > > > 
> > > > > the
> > > > > 
> > > > > > > piece.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Start Cadenza and End Cadenza seems to work just fine for 
me.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I just don't know how to hide the original time signature, so
> > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > no
> > > > > 
> > > > > time
> > > > > 
> > > > > > > signature is shown in the opening...
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The time signature is hidden using this command:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Command: (Print) Hide
> > > > > > On printing, omit the time signature change at the cursor, or 
the
> > > > > > initial time signature if the cursor is not on a time signature
> > > > > > change.
> > > > > > Location: ObjectMenu->TimeSig
> > > > > > Internal Name: HideTimesig
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > However, until 23rd Sept there was this bug:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/index.php?49164
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > which, as explained there, meant you would not see the hiding 
in
> > 
> > the
> > 
> > > > > > Print View until without some workaround (e.g. save and 
reload
> > 
> > file).
> > 
> > > > > > I think you have a version that was built after 23rd Sept, in
> > > > > > which
> > > > > > case
> > > > > > it should be working. Please report if it is not. (I just checked
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > all seems well).
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Richard
> > > > > > 
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