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Re: [Suggestion] GNUstep-test for quality control
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Pascal J . Bourguignon |
Subject: |
Re: [Suggestion] GNUstep-test for quality control |
Date: |
Thu, 16 Oct 2003 15:27:19 +0200 |
Philippe C.D. Robert writes:
> Hi,
>
> Dennis Leeuw wrote:
> > Hi Stefan,
> >
> > An important note: the Users of GNUstep are developers. GNUstep is a
> > development environment. That's the problem.
>
> IMHO the real problem is that GNUstep is only promoted as development
> environment. I never understood the reasoning behind this strategy, but
> so it is. Personally I doubt that there are many developers out there
> who are interested in writing code for an API which is not part of an
> entire desktop solution and/or does not fit nicely into existing
> environments (in these days).
>
> Let me give an example, many ex OpenStep developers and maybe even Cocoa
> developers were(are?) interested in porting their stuff to GNUstep
> (mostly running under X11) assuming it would be some sort of an OPENSTEP
> or Mac OS X replacement. Something which makes them independent from
> NeXT or Apple, something which gives them a real alternative. But what
> they actually find is a set of libraries which allows them to port their
> apps, but which does not (and IMHO cannot really) integrate into the
> environment of choice (GNOME, KDE, CDE ... ) - be it because of
> different philosophies (GUI) or implementation "details" (eg. copy and
> paste and so on). As a result only a few really spend time working with
> GNUstep because GNUstep as such is not the alternative most of them are
> looking for. At least this is my experience...
>
> To make it short I believe that GNUstep would be far more successful if
> it was "only" a X11 based desktop solution than a crossplattform API
> which has to integrate into other desktops. But this discussion is an
> old one and off topic anyway, I guess. So excuse me for writing this,
> but I just had to ... :-)
Personnaly, I look forward to be able to run GNUstep as a desktop
replacement (and GWorkspace as a replacement of the Finder!) on Darwin
(MacOSX). I can't wait to have WindowMaker dock in lieu of that
wobbling mass passing for a dock in MacOSX.
--
__Pascal_Bourguignon__
http://www.informatimago.com/
Do not adjust your mind, there is a fault in reality.
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- Re: [Suggestion] GNUstep-test for quality control, Fred Kiefer, 2003/10/18
- Re: [Suggestion] GNUstep-test for quality control, Philippe C . D . Robert, 2003/10/19
- Re: [Suggestion] GNUstep-test for quality control, Fred Kiefer, 2003/10/19
- GNUstep roadmap (was Re: [Suggestion] GNUstep-test for quality control), Philippe C . D . Robert, 2003/10/20
- Re: GNUstep roadmap (was Re: [Suggestion] GNUstep-test for quality control), Adam Fedor, 2003/10/21
- Re: GNUstep roadmap (was Re: [Suggestion] GNUstep-test for quality control), Philip Mötteli, 2003/10/22
- Re: GNUstep roadmap (was Re: [Suggestion] GNUstep-test for quality control), Chad Hardin, 2003/10/22