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Re: GNUstep roadmap (was Re: [Suggestion] GNUstep-test for qualitycontr
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Jeff Teunissen |
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Re: GNUstep roadmap (was Re: [Suggestion] GNUstep-test for qualitycontrol) |
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Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:47:55 -0400 |
Helge Hess wrote:
> On 23.10.2003, at 04:18, Alex Perez wrote:
[snip]
> > Project leaders need to lead. With all due respect, I respect your
> > years of service to the GNUstep community but feel that maybe we need
> > some new blood, if, as you put it, you really "don't much care which
> > way it goes." We need a leader. We need someone to give this project
> > some direction. You may have done that at some point before I was
> > around, and while you are a valuable contributor to the project, I
> > hereby question your ability to lead this project with that kind of
> > mentality.
>
> Well, I do not in general disagree.
>
> But you should think about the "leaders need to lead". It just doesn't
> work that way in community driven OpenSource projects. You can't assign
> work to someone, someone *takes* work himself. And if there is no one
> who wants to QA and upload BSD patches, well, then you don't get them.
It indeed *does* work that way in "community-driven" OSS/Free Software
projects.
In Free Software, a leader leads by forming a strategy and working towards
the completion of that strategy.
This requires that you be /able/ to say "This is where I want the project to
go", and it requires that you /visibly/ follow through with it, with
consistent progress toward your goals.
In short, you lead by example. Those who do not share the goals _at all_
will not want to go along with the direction (and may leave as a result of
that), but at least they know where they stand -- and where you stand. Those
who share /some/ of the goals will tend to focus on those in common, and
sometimes _their_ goals will coincide with those of the project, and Good
Things(tm) happen there.
Asking for opinions is good, but you do still need to be able to make a
decision.
> In any case I would suggest that if a new lead is *really* choosen, it
> should be someone who is a major committer in GS.
That is a given, as described above. The leader(s) of a project need to be
dominant in at least one of two ways: writing code, and as the public
face(s) of the project. The first is actually not critical, but the second
is. The leaders have to be very visible.
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- Re: Roadmap: and now the positive side, (continued)
- Re: GNUstep roadmap (was Re: [Suggestion] GNUstep-test for quality control), Alex Perez, 2003/10/23
- Re: GNUstep roadmap (was Re: [Suggestion] GNUstep-test for quality control), Richard Frith-Macdonald, 2003/10/23
- Re: GNUstep roadmap (was Re: [Suggestion] GNUstep-test for quality control), Pete French, 2003/10/23
- Re: GNUstep roadmap (was Re: [Suggestion] GNUstep-test for quality control), Helge Hess, 2003/10/23
- Re: GNUstep roadmap (was Re: [Suggestion] GNUstep-test for quality control), Alex Perez, 2003/10/23
- Re: GNUstep roadmap (was Re: [Suggestion] GNUstep-test for quality control), Nicola Pero, 2003/10/24
- Re: GNUstep roadmap (was Re: [Suggestion] GNUstep-test for qualitycontrol), Jeff Teunissen, 2003/10/24
- Re: GNUstep roadmap (was Re: [Suggestion] GNUstep-test for qualitycontrol),
Jeff Teunissen <=
- Re: GNUstep roadmap (was Re: [Suggestion] GNUstep-test for quality control), Adam Fedor, 2003/10/23
- Re: [Suggestion] GNUstep-test for quality control, Ian Jones, 2003/10/16
- Re: [Suggestion] GNUstep-test for quality control, Dennis Leeuw, 2003/10/16
- Re: [Suggestion] GNUstep-test for quality control, Adam Fedor, 2003/10/16
Re: [Suggestion] GNUstep-test for quality control (WAS: Re: deferreddeallocation), Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf, 2003/10/17
Re: [Suggestion] GNUstep-test for quality control (WAS: Re: deferreddeallocation), Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf, 2003/10/17