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Re: releases for gorm or projectcenter??


From: Sebastian Reitenbach
Subject: Re: releases for gorm or projectcenter??
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 20:30:07 +0200
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On Tuesday, October 11, 2011 19:37 CEST, Fred Kiefer <fredkiefer@gmx.de> wrote:

> On 11.10.2011 18:16, Sebastian Reitenbach wrote:
> > usually the openbsd ports build with gcc-4.2.1 and the libobjc that comes 
> > with it. I plan to switch the ports to use clang/libobjc2 instead.
> > I tried to compile the latest releases of gorm and projectcenter with 
> > clang/libobjc2. However, they fail to compile. I know they compile fine 
> > when using both from svn.
> > Could there be made some new releases for both?
> > If there are half baked features in the applications which are not yet 
> > ready to be released, could there be made some intermediate releases, just 
> > fixing the build errors?
> > If all is not possible, could someone maybe point me to the changes in svn 
> > that made it compile with clang/libobjc2?
>
> Eric suggested a gui/back release in the near future and I think this
> would be great, but only after we fix a few more bugs and test a little
> more. After that a Gorm and ProjectCenter release would be needed
> anyway. Maybe we could even do a parallel minor release for base at the
> same time?
>
> The only problem here is that with the stupid behaviour of RMS I don't
> have much motivation to contribute to GNUstep at the moment. I know this
> is wrong, still I have to fight very hard not to give in to the feeling
> of giving up on GNUstep for some time until I have forgot about RMS and
> just remember how great free software could be.

Actually I did not wanted to participate in that kind of political discussion, 
since
I usually give a %$ยง$% on what others have to say. I usually tend to just 
ignore such
stuff, and go on. I actually don't care whether GNUstep is
hosted by the FSF, or on the moon. Same way I don't care what kind of 
statements their leader blasts
out into the air. Maybe I'm not pissed because I never used a NeXT or MAC,
or I'm not that much of a friend of Apple or don't know Steve personally nor 
I'm that fond in history.
I even don't care that GNUstep is not licensed under my preferred license.
GPL, whatever version, definitely is not.

What I care is, I cannot really explain why, maybe its just because of the nice 
people
behind GNUstep, I meet at FOSDEM, and here on the list, is, I kinda like 
GNUstep.
And I'd be really pissed, if people stop contributing to it, just because 
someone is talking
a lot of nonsense...

Maybe I'm kind of hardened, as OpenBSD developer. Whenever I'd take it serious, 
when Theo shouts at someone
I kinda like, or has other random statements to say I don't like, then I'd 
probably be totally depressed.

The project is code, and code is the project, not political discussions.

I don't contribute much, in size of code and so on, but I test, and report 
back, especially with all my OpenBSD related problems I run into ;)
For me its fun to contribute to GNUstep, and I just don't stop to have fun, 
because just someone
random has to say some nonsense.

I hope the fun to work on GNUstep, to make it better day by day, is more 
important
to everyone, not just me, so that lets call it not politically correct 
statements of a
single person can subvert it.

just my 2 cents. hope my English is good enough to get what I mean.


cheers,
Sebastian







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