Re: Committing new smtpmail.el later tonight

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Ted Zlatanov <address@hidden>
> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 12:16:53 -0500
> 
> On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 19:19:59 +0300 Eli Zaretskii <address@hidden> wrote: 
> 
> EZ> That is fine for newcomers to smtpmail.  But put myself in my shoes: I
> EZ> configured my smtpmail years ago, and don't even remember the name of
> EZ> my SMTP server, let alone the password.  People like me will not be
> EZ> amused if their old setup suddenly stops working until they dust out
> EZ> old instructions.
> 
> The variable is obsoleted.  Isn't that the normal way to do it, possibly
> annoying people?

I understand that the variable is not just obsoleted, it no longer has
any effect whatsoever.  Isn't that so?

> It's not particularly hard to migrate the info yourself, as I
> mentioned.

I don't like to be forced to migrate.  As I explained, it's a nuisance
for me, because I need to dig up information I long forgot.

> EZ> Unlike other software, Emacs didn't until now break customizations in
> EZ> such a way, not without some sort of interim period when users were
> EZ> told to migrate.
> 
> Since 24.x is a major release, maybe it's OK.  How would you do it?

Declare it obsolete in NEWS and slate for removal in a couple of
releases.  Like we always did.

> EZ> How can my own customization on my own .emacs confuse me?
> 
> There are now two places where the credentials live, if we follow your
> scheme.  You can forget about ~/.authinfo and modify
> `smtpmail-auth-credentials' which won't work.

Well, I'm asking that it _does_ work, right?

Anyway, this conversation seems to go nowhere.  I made a request and
explained the reasons; if you want to ignore it, I guess I'll survive.