Re: mouse-1-click-follows-link is hard to use

[Reiner Steib]

On Wed, Mar 09 2005, Miles Bader wrote:

> On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 09:42:25 +0100, Kim F. Storm <address@hidden> wrote:
>> If you click the group name (which has mouse-face and a hand pointer),
>> yes.   Just click anywhere else in the line to navigate in the buffer
>> itself (or use long click)...
[...]
>> Why isn't mouse-face and hand pointer enough to differentiate them?

Probably I search for the group in question with my eyes and then move
the mouse there and click without looking at the pointer.
Additionally, my group names tend to be long and because of my
`gnus-group-line-format', half of the line (40/80) is click-able.  I
need to concentrate not to follow the link when I want to set point in
the Group buffer.

> Apparently not.
>
> I'm not sure what to say except I'm constantly being surprised and
> annoyed by the mouse-1 behavior in Gnus due to mouse-1-follows-link,
> whereas it seems "natural" in other places; 

Same for me. [1]

[ Cc-ing ding because of this: ]
> [To tell the truth what might be nicest for Gnus is to have a
> right-click menu which would present the various alternate ways of
> entering the group under the mouse pointer -- the current behavior of
> `mouse-save-then-kill' doesn't seem particularly useful...
> Unfortunately right-click menus are not an established standard in
> Emacs, so I dunno if they'd fly here or not.]

A subset of the "Group" menu ("Read", "Select", "See old articles",
"Check for new articles") would be nice.  We could try it in No Gnus
if someone wants to implement it.

Bye, Reiner.

[1] From a previous message on emacs-devel:

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| In Gnus Group buffer, I often want to put the cursor on a certain
| group and then I intend to do `C-u a' (post to group under point), `10
| RET' (show 10 article in that group), M-g (Check for new news in the
| current topic.).  In PCL-CVS, I often want to put the point on a file
| name and then do `=' (cvs-mode-diff), `l' (cvs-mode-log) ...
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