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Re: poor additions in quail/latin-ltx


From: Reiner Steib
Subject: Re: poor additions in quail/latin-ltx
Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 17:42:10 +0100
User-agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux)

On Wed, Mar 09 2005, Dave Love wrote:

> I think the block at the end of latin-ltx.el `From Karl Eichwalder.'
> should be changed.  

[ See <URL:http://thread.gmane.org/address@hidden>
  for the original discussion. ]

> Those quotation marks should be added, of course, but not with those
> names.  They aren't actually used in LaTeX as far as I can tell --
> either in the LaTeX symbol list document or anywhere in the Debian
> teTeX installation.

\glq, \glqq, ... are defined in the babel LaTeX package (see "texdoc
babel", table 4 or babel/babel.def and babel/*.ldf).  

> These LaTeX-defined names should be used:
>
> \guillemotleft «
> \guillemotright »
> \guilsinglleft ‹
> \guilsinglright ›
> \quotedblbase „
> \quotesinglbase ‚

Please don't _remove_ the short babel variants in favor of these.

[...]
> It would still be best to be able to enter such technical characters
> with the menu system that was rejected before for no good reason I can
> recall.  I can find them on that, but often don't know/remember the
> LaTeX name; you can't do completion on the names, which might help
> otherwise.  I suspect the same would be true for most users with
> non-technical characters like those typically accessible from an
> `insert special character' panel in `modern' text-entry applications.

Yes, a menu similar to the math menu in AUCTeX (which uses Unicode
characters in the menu when built with GTK) would be useful.  See [1]
for an isolated demonstration of the math menu.

Bye, Reiner.

[1] http://theotp1.physik.uni-ulm.de/~ste/comp/emacs/bugs/unicode-menu.el
    (This was done to demonstrate a bug in Emacs CVS which has been
    fixed in the meantime).
    "emacs -l unicode-menu.el -f LaTeX-math-mode" will display a math
    menu with Unicode characters.
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