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Re: [Glug-nith-discuss] Installing Debian from Windows


From: Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray
Subject: Re: [Glug-nith-discuss] Installing Debian from Windows
Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 20:45:07 +0530
User-agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11)

> Exactly why would anyone want to run the installer from Windows itself
> when if you want to install you will have to download the installer and
> then run it unless you really want kicks for kicking Windows from
> within it..

It is true that the http://goodbye-microsoft.com/ site does not outline any
test cases, but here is where Ubuntu does a better job. The use cases in
http://wiki.ubuntu.com/install.exe are quite explanatory.

> I checked out the link and over there if you want to install
> you can run install.exe using WINE too and so even if you are running
> Fedora and have Wine installed you can switch to Debian but the point
> remains why not the proper installer??

It is not meant to be run in WINE. It is for Windows users. Read the use
cases.

> I looked for it and this the answer I guess check this link
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/install.exe
> 
> After going through it it made me wonder what happened to Ubuntu's plan to
> ship free cds to faze out Windows??? Are the ships costlier or what? Look
> at the reasons listed in this link but doesnt sound convincing.

Have you read the use cases? I guess not. So here are a few salient points:

a. "Brenda is an inexperienced Windows user who is tired of viruses and
   crashes, so she decides to try out Ubuntu." But she does not know what
   to do with the .iso. Enter install.exe.

b. "Peter is an amateur video editor who is interested in trying out
   Ubuntu." But he can not because he is scared of losing his data. Enter
   install.exe.

c. "Jane and her coworkers are employees at WidgetTech Corporation who would
   like to use their favorite OS, Ubuntu, at work." But their company would
   not allow any re-partitioning. Enter install.exe.

d. "Mark is an Ubuntu user who has just bought an ultra-portable laptop."
   But he does not have a CD drive. Enter install.exe.

Which of these use cases talk about reducing ShipIts? In case you were
referring to:

"The elimination of the need for an installation CD will allow users without
CD burners or spare CDs to try Ubuntu, ease burdens on ShipIt, and allow
installation on ultra-portable laptops with no CD drives."

Stamping, packaging and shipping millions of Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Xubuntu CDs
to all corners of the world costs some money. Canonical is has not yet
broken even, and is a start-up with just twenty odd workers. Even Red Hat
can not afford to do this for Fedora.
-- 
husband    v. use sparingly; conserve; save
husbandry  n. frugality; thrift; agriculture

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