Re: [Gnu-arch-users] {arch} directory

[Dustin Sallings]

On Friday, Sep 26, 2003, at 01:46 US/Pacific, Robin Farine wrote:

> Some have mentioned namespace pollution. Have you ever seen a project
> tree, not under Arch control, containing a file system object with a
> name sandwiched in curly braces? However, no need to go far to find one
> whose name starts with '.', right?

        .{arch}  ?  I don't think this makes much of a difference.

> About the demonstrated disadvantage of visibility, I think others have
> demonstrated that the proof has a flaw. So, the real issue here is
> about _personal preference_ rather than suitability.

	I think this personal preference is a big issue.  I don't get to use 
apply my personal preferences here.

	I don't think I've seen any proof of a flaw regarding the 
disadvantages I have seen.  I've seen suggestions that I should be 
using ``tla inventory'' rather than find or grep -r, but until ``tla 
inventory'' has the all of the features of find, it's just not 
practical.

> I think that looking for strong arguments in favor of this detail or
> any other in the same vein just doesn't make sense. No solution will
> please everybody and the current state of things doesn't prevent
> people (in the UNIX world) to do their job. Moreover, a kind of
> meta-argument exists and people already mentioned it many times on the
> list. To paraphrase:

	I understand the point of the meta-argument, but I think there's a 
bigger issue.  If new users complain about, but eventually get used to 
a feature because it serves a good purpose, that's one thing.  If they 
complain about a design detail that is somewhat arbitrary and decide 
they like it for a side-effect it produces, it's still arbitrary and 
there will still be users who would rather not have the side-effect.

> "My new shoes look strange and even hurt sometimes, I am tempted to
> revert to the good old ones. But I know that I felt exactly the same
> when I bought those and that, in a few days, the new shoes will just
> do nicely."

	Man, I wish you could see the shoes I'm wearing today.  I would not be 
exaggerating in the slightest by saying that the majority of homeless 
people I've seen have nicer shoes than these.  cmax is taking way too 
long to fulfill the order I took way too long to place.

	(yes, I understood the point of this, but that particularly struck 
home)

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Dustin Sallings