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Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Question about bug 8206


From: Stefan Monnier
Subject: Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Question about bug 8206
Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2006 18:28:16 -0400
User-agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux)

>> > Note that "reasonably good" doesn't mean perfect, which (once again)
>> > implies that presentation-driven markup won't always map one-to-one to
>> > logical markup.
>> 
>> Could you give some concrete example for why Texinfo is "presentation
>> oriented"?  I always think of it as logical markup.

> Footnote styles.

> Practically everything in the "Forcing and Preventing Breaks" node in
> Texinfo's info.  (See, however,
> http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/documentation/reference/html/sbr.html)

Indeed, because Texinfo is on the simple side, it sometimes needs help to
make the presentation a little better.  But as a user, it's definitely not
something I normally use.

> In Texinfo, how can you indicate that you're referring to someone's name?

You can't.  But all that says is that Texinfo's logical markup
is incomplete.  Not that Texinfo's markup is presentation-driven.

> Or portions of their name?  Since there is no particular reason to display
> a person's name in some unusual fashion, there's really no reason for
> presentation-driven markup to have special markup for names.

Oh I think I see what you mean.  You really mean presentation-*driven*
rather than presentation-*oriented*.  Then I guess you're right: Texinfo was
designed as a *logical* markup but the design of that markup was kept as
simple as possible, where the main source of complexity comes from
presentation needs.


        Stefan




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