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Re: [GNU-linux-libre] review PureOS ISO


From: Zlatan Todoric
Subject: Re: [GNU-linux-libre] review PureOS ISO
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2016 17:02:12 +0100
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On 11/09/2016 04:52 PM, Jaromil wrote:
On Wed, 09 Nov 2016, Zlatan Todoric wrote:

tl;dr - an 100% free distro should not include, recommend nor
          facilitate the installation of non-free software. a bios
          firmware is also distributed software
We do not recommend nor faciliate installation of non-free software, and if
the bios firmware is the issue then all OSes fail on any hardware post 2009
- but I thought OS is separate from hardware in this discussion, maybe I am
wrong.
this is the misunderstanding then.

because you are recommending the option of getting your distribution
through a pre-installed medium (a laptop PC) which includes non-free
software (as its bios), then its hard to "separate from hardware in
this discussion". People here evaluate a sort of "user journey" to see
if, as someone approaching your distribution, one would ever be
proposed to use/install non-free software. That it should be so it is
clearly stated in the 100% free guidelines published by the FSF.

That is our business model, what is the problem there? You can download PureOS and install it on non-Librems. I really don't see the point of your mail - if we start recommending for installation of all FSF endorsed distros, will that render them nonfree as well - because we are free to that as well as you're free to download our OS and use it without purchasing our hardware.

One will never get to install non-free software with our OS, so the journey is good. Things can only get better, not worse because of us. Bashing us for taking different pathway (to yours) to spread FLOSS into hands of average user will gain you nothing.


I hope this helps clearing the misunderstanding.

ciao






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