Re: member returns list

[Emanuel Berg]

"Pascal J. Bourguignon" <pjb@informatimago.com>
writes:

>> Why don't you do a Lisp OS with Lisp-only software?
>
> Time. Money.

OK, what I meant was actually again why Lisp is so
marginalized. Not only in "industry" (yuk, that is
a stupid word) but also in the systems we use every
day. Every program I ever use is written in C (except
for Emacs which is C and Lisp). Do you think the
association between C and Unix, strong as it may, is
enough to explain this? The only big program which
I use that I can think of which is Lisp-only is Gnus
which is a part of Emacs.

>> Are there any particularly impressive Lisp programs
>> I can try? A window manager, for example?
>
> Indeed, there is stumpwm.

OK, I'll try it tonight.

> There are a lot of CL servers and applications, it
> would only take time to integrate them into a system
> with some kind of kernel (eg. a Linux kernel, for
> the drivers), writing a init(1) in lisp.

init! It is systemd(1) now:

    lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 20 Sep 28  2014 /sbin/init -> /lib/systemd/systemd

But: Keeping the Linux kernel (which is in C) and then
starting to replace the typical components in a Unix
or Linux system (which are all in C) with ditto in
Lisp, I don't see the purpose of that. What would be
interesting is a system that is Lispic, not just
another Unix only written in Lisp, which would be
stupid at best.

> On the other hand, there's also Mezzano if you want
> to try a recent LispOS written in CL.

Do you have hyperlinks to a bootable DVD or USB?

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