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Re: [Jari-developers] Fwd: jari booting proccess


From: Alfeiks Kaänoken
Subject: Re: [Jari-developers] Fwd: jari booting proccess
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 17:36:14 +0300

On Mon, 4 Dec 2006 17:26:13 +0300
"Dan Kruchinin" <address@hidden> wrote:

> On 12/4/06, йцу ддд <address@hidden> wrote:
> >
> > In my opinion, be better if we make a some simple Jari environment
> > first(basically it is scheduler + process manager + elf file loader +
> > very simple file system (like linux initramfs) + very simple irq
> > handling + some user process (sh, statically linked with libc.)
> > execute feature. It may be work without MM in first time(and it may be
> > good on MMUless embedded systems) and it is someone basis for the more
> > Jari development.
So, we're don't attend to develop ikernel for the MMUless systems, it's a not a 
good way,
it's more research than tribble development ;)
FS is ready for the 70 percents, it's a not bad I think, and I've planned to 
finish this for the one week or two weeks max with testing.
> 
> 
> 
> mm is very significant thing in any system, so other components  uses mm
> functionality.
> we can make some stubs, but it can make much garbage in mm. so it should be
> implemented at first, next sheduler, at next other least significant
> features.
So, now development has a two frontage, first is the lowlevel development, the 
second is the development in the userspace with wrappers to easy porting to the 
native Jari kernel.
I think that this is a good way.
> 
> but it will be better if we determine some server API to make kernel server
> in userspace of our OS'es. and them correlate different parts of project.
> low level + middle level + high level
Servers API partially designed, see (ikernel/include/ipc/port.h) we're just 
need ports and JP stack (that already ready)

I think that we're must be targeted to the lowlevel now (my subpart needs for 
it at this moment heavly) and for connecting up our two parts.
> 
> PS: Sorry for my terrible english.
> >
> > On 12/4/06, Dan Kruchinin <address@hidden> wrote:
> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > From: Dan Kruchinin <address@hidden>
> > > Date: Dec 4, 2006 4:54 PM
> > > Subject: jari booting proccess
> > > To: address@hidden
> > >
> > > i think we should to discuss jari booting proccess.
> > > for current moment we use grub as bootloader.
> > > but i think, that it'll be better to write our own loader.
> > > but we should give to user possibility to use bootloader, that he want.
> > > It can be grub, lilo or some other.
> > > so, in this case, our bootloader should to intercept management and do
> > some
> > > things, thats jari really need.
> > >
> > > so, gentlemens, your comments =)
> > >
> > >
> >


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Alfeiks Kaänoken,
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