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Re: suggestion: change OctavateEight name to ClefTransposition - opinion


From: Ian Hulin
Subject: Re: suggestion: change OctavateEight name to ClefTransposition - opinions?
Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2013 10:17:53 +0100
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Hi All
On 07/04/13 10:00, pls wrote:
> 
> Am 07.04.2013 um 10:14 schrieb Marc Hohl <address@hidden>:
> 
>> Am 06.04.2013 23:44, schrieb David Kastrup:
>>> Marc Hohl <address@hidden> writes:
>>> 
>>>> Am 05.04.2013 23:02, schrieb Janek Warchoł:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> The name "OctavateEight" doesn't have any sense - it
>>>>> doesn't show that this grob is related to the clef, and
>>>>> anyway the clef can be "transposed" by any amount, not just
>>>>> an octave. I suggest to rename this grob to
>>>>> ClefTransposition or something similar (since this is not
>>>>> strictly transposition, it may be best to use a slightly
>>>>> different name... ClefShift? At any rate, ClefOctavation
>>>>> would make much more sense than OctavateEight). We can also
>>>>> change names of some related context properties, for 
>>>>> example clefOctavation, clefOctavationStyle etc.  My only
>>>>> worry is that they may become too similar
>>>>> (clefTransposition and ClefTransposition). Thoughts?
>>>> 
>>>> +1
>>>> 
>>>> I'd prefer ClefTransposition over ClefShift, since the
>>>> latter implies some shift relative to the clef's default
>>>> position.
>>> 
>>> I think I'd like ClefModifier.  Something like
> I'd prefer ClefOctavation (or maybe ClefOctaveShift) to
> ClefModifier because it's clearer / more intuitive (at least to
> me).  ClefModifier could be misunderstood to refer to the shape of
> the symbol.
1+
The only numbers that make sense above or below clefs are ones
referring to a whole number of octaves (8, 15 etc.)
>> 
>> +1
>> 
>>> 
>>> `clefOctavation' (integer) Add this much extra octavation.
>>> Values of 7 and -7 are common.
>>> 
>>> does not make sense.  Transposition is not really accurate
>>> since the number is in steps rather than diatonic.  It is a bit
>>> disconcerting that values of 7, -7, 14 and -14 lead to numbers
>>> 8, 8, 15 and 15.
>>> 
>>> I don't find "shift" all too bad: one can talk about pitch
>>> shifting after all, and for spatial displacements we tend to
>>> use "offset".
>>> 
>> 
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Cheers, Ian





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