Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 101, Issue 71

[Father Gordon Gilbert]

On 15/04/2011, address@hidden
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>    1. Re:getting repeats to play in midi (Graham Percival)
>    2. Re:Phrasing Slurs only from another slur start? (Carl Sorensen)
>    3. Re:Spacing lyrics and markup (bruys .)
>    4. slur collides with ledger line & grace note size (Marc Mouries)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 22:34:29 +0100
> From: Graham Percival <address@hidden>
> To: Tom Cloyd <address@hidden>
> Cc: Lilypond <address@hidden>
> Subject: Re: getting repeats to play in midi
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> On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 03:26:06PM -0600, Tom Cloyd wrote:
>> But here's the problem which I keep running into. I'm reluctantly
>> willing to join the documentation list, but while there's plenty of
>> references to it, I have yet to see any link which takes me to a
>> subscription process. Why not make this easy to locate?
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> There is a huge misunderstanding here.  There is NO SUCH THING as
> a documentation list for lilypond.
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>> It makes NO sense to me to advise me (as the documentation manual
>> does) to post to what appears to be a documentation list (and I have
>> to infer that),
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> Please state exactly which page caused you to "infer" that there
> is a documentation list.  I want to fix this.
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>> I just went to look for this how-to-join
>> information again. I've clicked about 15 links. All dry holes. I'm
>> afraid my motivation won't outlast this test.
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> Please tell me EXACTLY where you are looking so that I can fix it.
> Starting with whatever made you think that there was a
> documentation list.
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> - Graham
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> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 15:34:30 -0600
> From: Carl Sorensen <address@hidden>
> To: Nils <address@hidden>, lilypond-user <address@hidden>
> Subject: Re: Phrasing Slurs only from another slur start?
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> On 4/15/11 3:02 PM, "Nils" <address@hidden> wrote:
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>> However my Lilypond install 2.13.58 complains if I start the phrasing slur
>> (\
>> anywhere else except right before the normal slur, as seen in the example.
>>
>
> Phrasing slur is \(, not (\.  You had the problem because (\ is invalid
> LilyPond syntax.  By doing (\( you got a normal slur ( followed by a
> phrasing slur \(, so you didn't end up with a syntax error.
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> Hope this helps,
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> Carl
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 08:07:15 +1000
> From: "bruys ." <address@hidden>
> To: Jan-Peter Voigt <address@hidden>
> Cc: address@hidden
> Subject: Re: Spacing lyrics and markup
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> Dear Jan-Peter,
> Which version are you using? This doesn't work with 2.12.3, an '(n)' appears
> above the extender line in the second bar.
> Regards,
> Bruys
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> On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 9:58 PM, Jan-Peter Voigt <address@hidden> wrote:
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>> Hello Phil,
>>
>> I think you can't move TextScript elements beyond lyrics with
>> outside-staff-priority - the lyrics don't belong to a staff but are
>> probably
>> associated to a voice within. So you probably have to move the markup with
>> \translate or the TextScript with extra-offset.
>> If it is possible to get the vertical position of a lyrics context from
>> within a staff/voice context, it should be possible to move something
>> beyond
>> that point. That would make some other things possible:
>>
>> If I place a closing "(n)" on an extender line, I do it with these two
>> functions:
>>
>> %%% start snip
>> freetext = #(define-music-function (parser location dx dy text)(number?
>> number? markup?)
>>  #{
>>    \once \override TextScript #'X-extent = #'(0 . 0)
>>    \once \override TextScript #'Y-extent = #'(0 . 0)
>>    \once \override TextScript #'self-alignment-X = #CENTER
>>    s1*0_\markup { \translate #(cons $dx $dy) $text }
>> #})
>> closeN = #(define-music-function (parser location dy)(number?)
>>  #{
>>    \freetext #0 #$dy \markup { "(n)" }
>> #})
>> closeNx = #(define-music-function (parser location dx dy)(number? number?)
>>  #{
>>    \freetext #$dx #$dy \markup { "(n)" }
>> #})
>> %%% end snip
>> %%% example:
>> \relative c' { \partial 4 e4 ~ << e1 ~ \closeN #-3.7 >> | e }
>> \addlyrics { A __ }
>>
>> So I set x- and y-extent to 0, so that lily doesn't see a collision. Then
>> I
>> move it down. I could of course move it beyond any lyrics assigned to this
>> voice, but I have to trial and error to find the right value. It would be
>> nice to get the vertical position of the Lyrics and attach/align the text
>> to
>> it.
>> This might lead (again) to a hen-and-egg-problem, where the vertical
>> position of the lyrics is not known until the textscript is positioned.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Jan-Peter
>>
>>
>>
>> On 15.04.2011 13:29, Phil Holmes wrote:
>>
>>> Can anyone give me pointers as to how to put markup text outside Lyric
>>> text? I've tried overriding the Staff.TextScript outside-staff-priority,
>>> and
>>> that shifts markup outside tempo marks, for instance, but does nothing
>>> wrt
>>> Lyrics.
>>>
>>> TIA.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Phil Holmes
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> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 17:22:09 -0400
> From: Marc Mouries <address@hidden>
> To: "address@hidden" <address@hidden>
> Subject: slur collides with ledger line & grace note size
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> I tested with both 2.12 and 2.13 and in both versions the slur collides
> with the ledger line
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> In the picture of the old score i have the slur is moved below the
> ledger line. How can we do the same with lilypond?
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>
> I also noticed that lilypond prints grace note with a little bigger
> proportion than usual. Is there a way i can change the size and how
> close grace notes are from the next notes?
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> thanks,
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> -Marc
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Fr. Gordon Gilbert
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