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Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 101, Issue 71


From: Janek Warchoł
Subject: Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 101, Issue 71
Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 07:06:24 +0200

Hi,

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Janek

2011/4/16 Father Gordon Gilbert <address@hidden>:
> On 15/04/2011, address@hidden
> <address@hidden> wrote:
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>> Today's Topics:
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>>    1. Re:getting repeats to play in midi (Graham Percival)
>>    2. Re:Phrasing Slurs only from another slur start? (Carl Sorensen)
>>    3. Re:Spacing lyrics and markup (bruys .)
>>    4. slur collides with ledger line & grace note size (Marc Mouries)
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 22:34:29 +0100
>> From: Graham Percival <address@hidden>
>> To: Tom Cloyd <address@hidden>
>> Cc: Lilypond <address@hidden>
>> Subject: Re: getting repeats to play in midi
>> Message-ID: <address@hidden>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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>> On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 03:26:06PM -0600, Tom Cloyd wrote:
>>> But here's the problem which I keep running into. I'm reluctantly
>>> willing to join the documentation list, but while there's plenty of
>>> references to it, I have yet to see any link which takes me to a
>>> subscription process. Why not make this easy to locate?
>>
>> There is a huge misunderstanding here.  There is NO SUCH THING as
>> a documentation list for lilypond.
>>
>> All of our official, active, lists are here:
>> http://lilypond.org/contact.html
>> with the possible exception of the "frogs" list, which is here:
>> http://lilypond.org/help-us.html
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>>
>>> It makes NO sense to me to advise me (as the documentation manual
>>> does) to post to what appears to be a documentation list (and I have
>>> to infer that),
>>
>> Please state exactly which page caused you to "infer" that there
>> is a documentation list.  I want to fix this.
>>
>>
>>> I just went to look for this how-to-join
>>> information again. I've clicked about 15 links. All dry holes. I'm
>>> afraid my motivation won't outlast this test.
>>
>> Please tell me EXACTLY where you are looking so that I can fix it.
>> Starting with whatever made you think that there was a
>> documentation list.
>>
>> - Graham
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 15:34:30 -0600
>> From: Carl Sorensen <address@hidden>
>> To: Nils <address@hidden>, lilypond-user <address@hidden>
>> Subject: Re: Phrasing Slurs only from another slur start?
>> Message-ID: <address@hidden>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> On 4/15/11 3:02 PM, "Nils" <address@hidden> wrote:
>>>
>>> However my Lilypond install 2.13.58 complains if I start the phrasing slur
>>> (\
>>> anywhere else except right before the normal slur, as seen in the example.
>>>
>>
>> Phrasing slur is \(, not (\.  You had the problem because (\ is invalid
>> LilyPond syntax.  By doing (\( you got a normal slur ( followed by a
>> phrasing slur \(, so you didn't end up with a syntax error.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>>
>> Carl
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 08:07:15 +1000
>> From: "bruys ." <address@hidden>
>> To: Jan-Peter Voigt <address@hidden>
>> Cc: address@hidden
>> Subject: Re: Spacing lyrics and markup
>> Message-ID: <address@hidden>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
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>> Dear Jan-Peter,
>> Which version are you using? This doesn't work with 2.12.3, an '(n)' appears
>> above the extender line in the second bar.
>> Regards,
>> Bruys
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 9:58 PM, Jan-Peter Voigt <address@hidden> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Phil,
>>>
>>> I think you can't move TextScript elements beyond lyrics with
>>> outside-staff-priority - the lyrics don't belong to a staff but are
>>> probably
>>> associated to a voice within. So you probably have to move the markup with
>>> \translate or the TextScript with extra-offset.
>>> If it is possible to get the vertical position of a lyrics context from
>>> within a staff/voice context, it should be possible to move something
>>> beyond
>>> that point. That would make some other things possible:
>>>
>>> If I place a closing "(n)" on an extender line, I do it with these two
>>> functions:
>>>
>>> %%% start snip
>>> freetext = #(define-music-function (parser location dx dy text)(number?
>>> number? markup?)
>>>  #{
>>>    \once \override TextScript #'X-extent = #'(0 . 0)
>>>    \once \override TextScript #'Y-extent = #'(0 . 0)
>>>    \once \override TextScript #'self-alignment-X = #CENTER
>>>    s1*0_\markup { \translate #(cons $dx $dy) $text }
>>> #})
>>> closeN = #(define-music-function (parser location dy)(number?)
>>>  #{
>>>    \freetext #0 #$dy \markup { "(n)" }
>>> #})
>>> closeNx = #(define-music-function (parser location dx dy)(number? number?)
>>>  #{
>>>    \freetext #$dx #$dy \markup { "(n)" }
>>> #})
>>> %%% end snip
>>> %%% example:
>>> \relative c' { \partial 4 e4 ~ << e1 ~ \closeN #-3.7 >> | e }
>>> \addlyrics { A __ }
>>>
>>> So I set x- and y-extent to 0, so that lily doesn't see a collision. Then
>>> I
>>> move it down. I could of course move it beyond any lyrics assigned to this
>>> voice, but I have to trial and error to find the right value. It would be
>>> nice to get the vertical position of the Lyrics and attach/align the text
>>> to
>>> it.
>>> This might lead (again) to a hen-and-egg-problem, where the vertical
>>> position of the lyrics is not known until the textscript is positioned.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Jan-Peter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 15.04.2011 13:29, Phil Holmes wrote:
>>>
>>>> Can anyone give me pointers as to how to put markup text outside Lyric
>>>> text? I've tried overriding the Staff.TextScript outside-staff-priority,
>>>> and
>>>> that shifts markup outside tempo marks, for instance, but does nothing
>>>> wrt
>>>> Lyrics.
>>>>
>>>> TIA.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Phil Holmes
>>>>
>>>>
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>> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 17:22:09 -0400
>> From: Marc Mouries <address@hidden>
>> To: "address@hidden" <address@hidden>
>> Subject: slur collides with ledger line & grace note size
>> Message-ID: <address@hidden>
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>> I tested with both 2.12 and 2.13 and in both versions the slur collides
>> with the ledger line
>>
>>
>> In the picture of the old score i have the slur is moved below the
>> ledger line. How can we do the same with lilypond?
>>
>>
>> I also noticed that lilypond prints grace note with a little bigger
>> proportion than usual. Is there a way i can change the size and how
>> close grace notes are from the next notes?
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>> thanks,
>>
>> -Marc
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> Fr. Gordon Gilbert
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