Re: separating design from pure score

[Stjepan Horvat]

Yes..i think it does..:)

On 3/15/12, Urs Liska <address@hidden> wrote:
> Hi Stjepan,
>
> sorry that I don't have the time to really go through this thread (so I
> might misunderstand sth).
>
> But I think you should separate your music variables from your score
> definition, so you can \include them separately:
>
> music.ly
> myMusic = { ... }
>
> score.ly
> \score {
>      \new Staff <<
>        \myMusic
>        \myMarks
>  >>
> }
>
>
> Then you can have your master file like:
>
> \include "music.ly"
> myMarks = { ... }
> \include "score.ly"
>
> Does that help?
>
> Best
> Urs
>
> Am 15.03.2012 11:23, schrieb Stjepan Horvat:
>> Hello all..thank you for you anwsers..i really appreciate it..It's not
>> exactly what i wanted..but it helps me figure out more what i want and
>> what will be my solution..!
>>
>> David Kastrup leads in this direction what i'm trying ta achive..The
>> diference form Hans Aikema is that i want to include music in a
>> diffrent file which i compile afterwords..The reason for that is that
>> i want to define music as is..Becouse each song is uniq and
>> unchangable..So i dont ever have to change the music file.
>>
>> For Example:
>> 1. I want the score to be minimalistic and to be sufficient in itself.
>>
>> ===== score.ly =====
>> \verison "2.14.2"
>> \header { title = "TITLE" composer = "COMPOSER" }
>> mymusic = \relative c' { c4 d e f \mark \default g }
>> mylyrics = \lyricmode { c d e f g }
>> mychords = \chordmode { c1 c4 }
>> \score {
>> <<
>> \new ChordNames { \mychords }
>> \new Staff { \mymusic }
>> \addlyrics { \mylyrics }
>> }
>> ==== end of score.ly ====
>>
>> Minimalistic as i said. Maybe even without \mark \default.
>>
>> So now in design.ly i would set the fonts and paper and whatever would
>> be static in project period. I think the layout should work here.
>>
>> And on the end.
>>
>> ==== master.ly ====
>> \include "./desing.ly"
>> \include "./score.ly"
>>
>> %now here should go the paddings for this specifig song couse every
>> song looks difrent and has diffrent bar numbers..Now i would want to
>> maybe use \break command but inside the score..So here comes my
>> problem. Becouse the score block is included while including score.ly
>> (i would want only the variable to be included) i can't make a mark
>> blok where i would define simple marks and bar brakes.
>>
>> paper {
>> markup-system-spacing #'padding = #5
>> markup-system-spacing #'stretchability = #5
>> score-system-spacing #'padding = #5
>> last-bottom-spacing #'padding = #5
>> score-markup-spacing #'padding = #5
>> top-system-spacing #'padding = #17.5
>> }
>>
>> marks = {
>>    \set Score.markFormatter = #format-mark-box-barnumbers
>>    \hideNotes
>>    R1 \break
>>    \bar "||"
>>    \mark \default
>>    \unHideNotes
>>    \bar "|."
>> }
>>
>> \score {
>> <<
>> \new ChordNames { \mychords }
>> \new Staff {<<  \mymusic \marks>>}
>> \addlyrics { \mylyrics }
>> }
>>
>> ==== end of master.ly ====
>>
>> I would only compile the maste.ly file..
>>
>> I think i made myself clear..:) Thanks for further guidence.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:31 PM, Hans Aikema<address@hidden>
>> wrote:
>>> On 14-3-2012 19:16, Stjepan Horvat wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I'm working on a project and i want to separate the design from score
>>>> because i want to have a clear score so that in the future when i
>>>> maybe want to change the design i dont have to change the score
>>>> (something like html and CSS :) ). So when i include my score into my
>>>> design file variables are included but score block also. Now when i
>>>> what to change, for example, \mark \default to have a preety box i
>>>> dont know where to put it. Is there a way not to include a score block
>>>> but all variables, or insert stuff into a score block that is
>>>> invisible to me?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> If I understand your request correctly you're looking for a similar
>>> structure as what I'm working with for generating beamerslides of songs
>>> including their music. In that case the \include command is your friend.
>>>
>>> What I have in my projects:
>>>
>>> format/BaseBeamerslideDesign.ly
>>> contains
>>> - a \paper section containing lots of formatting settings
>>> - a \layout setting containing lots of formatting settings
>>> - an include for yet another lilypond file containing useful scheme
>>> functions such as the override-color-for-allgrobs scheme funtion I found
>>> in
>>> the LSR: http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=443
>>> - variable definitions for a music staff (muziekbalk) and its associated
>>> lyrics (verstekst):
>>> muziekbalk = { \new Staff \new Voice = myMelody { \melodie } }
>>> verstekst = {\new Lyrics \lyricsto "myMelody" { \tekst }}
>>>
>>> format/BeamerRegular.ly
>>> contains
>>> - an include of format\BaseBeamerslideDesign.ly
>>> - a Score block combining the variables defined in BaseBeamerSlideDesign
>>> into an actual Score and override of the grob-colors to get colored
>>> output:
>>> === format/BeamerRegular.ly sample ===
>>> \include "BaseBeamerslideDesign.ly"
>>>
>>> \score {
>>> <<
>>>             \applyContext #(override-color-for-all-grobs white)
>>>             \muziekbalk
>>>             \verstekst
>>> }
>>> === end of format/BeamerRegular.ly ===
>>>
>>> Then any song requiring the beamer slide format:
>>> - a \header block
>>> - a variable definition called 'melodie' (which is refered to in the
>>> format\BaseBeamerslideDesign.ly mentioned above) containing the melody of
>>> the song
>>> - a variable definition called 'tekst' which is refered to in the
>>> format\BaseBeamerslideDesign.ly mentioned above) containing the lyrics of
>>> the song
>>> - an include of the format/BeamerRegular.ly
>>>
>>> e.g.:
>>> === MySong.ly sample ===
>>> \version "2.15.26"
>>> \header {
>>>     title = "Just some sample song"
>>> }
>>> melodie = \relative c'' {
>>>     \clef treble
>>>     \time 4/4
>>>     \key c \major
>>>     c d e f \bar "|."
>>> }
>>> tekst = \lyricmode {
>>>   this is a song
>>> }
>>> \include format/BeamerGewoon.ly
>>> === end of MySong.ly sample ===
>>>
>>> The reason for the BeamerRegular.ly is that I also have separate files
>>> for
>>> BeamerNoBars, BeamerNoTimeSignature, BeamerNoTimeSignatureNoBars for
>>> different score-tweaks on different songs.
>>> All basic formatting is done in BaseBeamerslideDesign, the tweaks for
>>> outputting different score types for different subsets of my songs are in
>>> these additional lilypond format/*.ly files. The songs than include the
>>> appropriate 'tweaked' design from the format folder.
>>> Any design change (e.g. font-size, fonts to use, paper-sizing) I can do
>>> on
>>> BaseBeamerslideDesign and then I can just regenerate all the songs of my
>>> library to get updated sheet-music using the new layout.
>>>
>>> This 'layering' of definitions can be extended as much as one wants of
>>> course, such as for different score setups (I only have need for a
>>> single-voice score with accompanying lyrics), someone else might find a
>>> need
>>> to define eg a set of SATB choral score designs including the baseDesign
>>> for
>>> the basic layout settings.
>>>
>>> Which might lead to for example:
>>> - baseDesign.ly (font setup, paper setup, staff-sizing setup)
>>> - SATBScoreBase.ly (variable setup for the 4 voices and accompanying
>>> lyrics)
>>> - SATBScore-S-A-T-B-SLyrics.ly including the SATBScoreBase and containing
>>> a
>>> score-block with each voice on its own staff and only lyrics accompanying
>>> the Soprano voice
>>> - SATBScore-SA-TB-STLyrics.ly including the SATBScoreBase and containg a
>>> score-block with the voices two-by-two on staffs and lyrics accompanying
>>> the
>>> Soprano and Tenor voices
>>> - SATBScore-S-A-T-B-LyricsAll.ly including the SATBScoreBase and
>>> containing
>>> a score-block with each voice on its own staff and lyrics accompanying
>>> each
>>> of the voices
>>>
>>> regards,
>>> Hans Aikema
>>>
>>>
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