Re: Sibelius Software UK office shuts down

[Owain Sutton]

As has already been mentioned in this discussion, the UK education market is 
HUGE. All high schools are pretty much expected to provide access to decent 
music technology, and Sibelius has a near-universal presence on computers in 
music classrooms.

On 08:24, Fri 03 Aug 2012, Francois Planiol wrote:
> Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 08:24:29 -0500
> From: Francois Planiol <address@hidden>
> Subject: Re: Sibelius Software UK office shuts down
> To: Lucas Gonze <address@hidden>, address@hidden
> List-Id: LilyPond user discussion <lilypond-user.gnu.org>
> 
> Not so small that you cant do enough money with it. Sib and finale has
> grown as sequencers and interesting enough for many midi-ists,
> specially for hobbyists. I am sure a big part of the market  of sib
> (definitely easier than finale and with a big music-library) was not
> engraving and not so professional.
> 
> Francois
> 
> 2012/8/2, Lucas Gonze <address@hidden>:
> > The market for music notation tools is very small! That's a major obstacle.
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Francois Planiol <address@hidden>
> > wrote:
> >> If this is faster (depends, entering notes and lyrics without tuning
> >> the output is in lilypond faster) so Sibelius is victim of the same
> >> capitalism it serves. No cry.
> >>
> >> But if Sib-programmers are smart, they would go startup...
> >>
> >> Francois
> >>
> >> 2012/8/2, Lucas Gonze <address@hidden>:
> >>> I'm an ex-Sibelius user. Even though I know Lilypond syntax pretty
> >>> well I still find that it would be much faster to use Sibelius.
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Francois Planiol <address@hidden>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> I know quite a bunch of of Sibelius users and their argumentation,
> >>>> mostly are writing arrangements or compositions directly in the
> >>>> computer. They just want to click the glyphes on a pentagrama
> >>>> directly. I suppose a part them would not mind if Lily takes the hand
> >>>> over spacing and other decisions, but these would only be conviced
> >>>> with a pentagrama-frontend and a directly accessible midi-playback.
> >>>> They think they have no time to learn a new method of writing music...
> >>>> and want one installer for all the stuff.
> >>>> On the other side, Sibelius will still work a while...
> >>>> Francois
> >>>>
> >>>> 2012/8/2, Lucas Gonze <address@hidden>:
> >>>>> On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 8:04 AM, Joseph Rushton Wakeling
> >>>>> <address@hidden> wrote:
> >>>>>> More generally than that, I think the reason to discuss is to
> >>>>>> _discover_
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>> areas where you can cooperate.  There are obvious areas of
> >>>>>> interaction
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> e.g. enabling Lilypond output for MuseScore and ensuring that it gets
> >>>>>> updated effectively in response to Lilypond syntax changes.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have considered using Lilypond as a back end for front end hacking,
> >>>>> but the compile time from .ly to .svg is way too high.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Is it architecturally possible to make a significant amount of
> >>>>> overhead go away? Are incremental compiles plausible?
> >>>>>
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